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Negative Training

yadmit
yadmit
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2004/02/25, 01:39 PM
I'm trying to understand the concept of it...

This came from a fitness seminar the other night:

Positive Training... progressively adding heavier weights - lower the reps (This is what I currently do)

Negative Training... progressively lowering weights reps stay the same.

Negative Training lowering the weight in a slow controlled manner is what requires a spotter and will allow muscle mass growth.

My questions is, as you lower your weight and keep the reps the same, do you slow down the negative movement... instead of 4 seconds to lower the weight, make it take 6 or eight seconds?

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rpacheco
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2004/02/25, 01:42 PM
A good example of negative training is the good old Cheat curl. The focus is on slowly lowering the weight. Throw these into your routines periodically and you will spur hypertrophy.

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bigandrew
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2004/02/25, 01:47 PM
you focase on the negative( or essentric contracion) because it sopossly, burns and damages more muscle fibers, and I guess you can lower it as slow as you want......they are great to do on leg presses, flys, dumbell benches,leg curls, extensions and lateral raises.............I find machines and cables are the safest way to do them however be careful, I have a strain bicep from a esentric contraction,,,,however mine was from a 120lb girl flying through the air landing on my left arm lol.

hope this kinda sorta helps

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yadmit
yadmit
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2004/02/25, 01:48 PM
Cool.... but as you make your way through your sets, do you slow it down? ie: Set 1 take 4 seconds on the negative movement, set 2 take 6 and so on?

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Tim

\"I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies, for the hardest victory is over self.\"

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bigandrew
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2004/02/25, 01:52 PM
I ussually just keep the negative the same I guess, or tell the muscle fails and i have to rack it.......but i usually keep the weight the same.........same I wanna be able to bench press 225 for 12 reps and I can only do it 10 times, I put 200 on the bar and do 1 or 2 sets of negatives, till I can't do them. Nothing really set you have to count I don't think

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.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records!
......minds are not vessles to be filled, but fires to be enlightened
......Confucious once said ,DO NOT play leap frog with a unicorn

vikingchild
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2004/02/28, 08:17 AM
i was always told keep the timing the same just keep raising the reps as weight lowers until down to bare bar.basically go to utter failure from say 150lbs -5 each set to bare bar 45lbs.it worked for me all through high school and i was always alot stronger than the other lifters but kept lean muscle and smaller appearance.the avearge lifting day i or anyone could out lift(bench press) someone lifting normally by several hundred pounds when tallied up in the end of work out.was great ego boost to a teenager.but you only worked out like that twice aweek and didn't do much the rest of the week

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