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2005/03/03, 05:03 PM
ok, it was a great experiment, and i learned alot, but i think its time I dropped the westside routine. For now... I don't think I'm really ready for it. It was great for my in-season training because it made me a lot faster and the dynamic workouts were easier to recover from and less taxing on my CNS, so it worked beautifully while I was using it, but I think that for all purposes, right now I should drop it. Where as I have been quite successul with my lifting so far, I don't think I am advanced enough to NEED this type of training yet. It still worked great. I think that for now I will go back to regular powerlifting training to build my lifting base. I'll probably turn back to westside when I hit a plateau.
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Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
steve
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2005/03/03, 05:07 PM
I think I will go to a 4 day routine similar to westside, but without the dynamic work. I learned alot while doing westside style lifting, and I intend to use and implement what I learned in my future lifting programs. For example, I intend to continue using the conjugated method. I continue to change my ME exercise every week to prevent plataueing (sp?). If anyone has any questions about my experiances with the westside method, feel free to ask.
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Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
steve
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2005/03/04, 10:21 AM
Anyone can use Westside methods. If you are a beginner then you shouldn't switch your exercises every week. You should stick with them for 3 weeks. You can also build your base while working with Westside methods. The beauty in what they do is that they work on major components through out the entire year. Those components are:
1. Dynamic Strength
2. Max Effort Strength
3. Work Capacity(which is really what you are calling base training)
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2005/03/05, 12:15 AM
What I mean isnt that I wasnt getting results. And I get stale from doing the same excercises 3 weeks in a row, I usually swith every week or every other week depending on the type of excercise (squat, gm, dl...) What I meant was that I dont need to use the westside barbell methods to see significant gains in strength. I am still at that stage where I can get stronger by getting "stronger", as opposed to having to get faster to get stronger. I think that after I get my weights up, then i will go back to westside lifting. I was very successful on it, I just want it to be more efecitve later on in my lifting career, so i dont want to adapt to it at all now.
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Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
steve
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2005/03/05, 12:37 PM
The beautiful thing about westside training is that it gives you freedom to change everything at anytime if you follow the basic template. If a person implements it correctly it is the best way to train for a powerlifter. I have seen it over and over. Why wait to train the best way? You will never adapt to it as long as you change out your max effort and assistance exercises. I have had my best gains from age 26-30 from being on Westside and I started training when I was 12. I have never been stale on westside and part of that is I know when and what to switch out. I work with beginners and in 6 weeks I have seen a 6' femal volleyball player go from 180lbs on a squat to 285 lbs. Why is that? Speed is the reason. You need strength to support speed and you need speed to support strength. They work in tandom. They are never separated. That is a fact. Westside is a great way for a wrestler to train too. It develops great anaerobic power and great anaerobic endurance. Which are two attributes any wrestler needs. (I wrestled in high school and college). I think you need more variety for the system if you feel you are getting stale. I can take a volleyball team through an entire year of training and never exactly repeat the same max effort or assistance exercises. I also switch the rep schemes up. Those two variables are enough to keep it fresh all year long. You do what you want but I am convinced that there are good ways to train and then there are great ways to train. Westside fits the latter...
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2005/03/07, 02:40 PM
I guess your right. I plan on going back on the westside after 3 1/2 weeks, when the routine im on is over. I do have to modify it to fit my own needs (ex, more pulling excercises and a day devoted entirely to torso and rotational work), but it worked excellently while i was doing it. It does feel good to do a traditional squat, which I havent done the entire time I've been using westside (always box squats or front squats, or front box squats). Im starting to miss my good mornings though. They really helped with lower back strength for wrestling. Thanks for your feedback and support.
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Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
steve
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2005/03/08, 08:40 PM
personaly, i like MetalMilitia style training for bench and westside for squating. Its working for me so i'll stick to it for now.
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2005/03/08, 09:26 PM
metalmilita are only so good at benching becuase there so bad at squatting. None of them work the squat competitively, so they all can specialize in bench. Otherwise, they'd never be as successful as they are right now.
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2005/03/08, 10:37 PM
thats why i use the metalmilita template for benching and westside for squating. Metalmilitia is knowen for benching while westside seems to be more knowen for squating.I put them togeather and seem to be getting good overall results so far.
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2005/03/10, 04:53 PM
your missing what im trying to say. The main reason metalmilitia is so effective at bench, is because they are bench press specialists, as in they dont participate in other lifts competitively, so they dont have to concentrate on other lifts and can put all theyre energy towards developing the bench press. besides, metalmilitia vs westside was not the purpose of this thread
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