2003/03/04, 05:36 PM
Okay, humor me here and see if how you feel. After reading more about protein and its entrance to the blood stream and amino levels over time, I was considering something. First off, when protein supplements are taken, amino acid levels don't reach their peak for over an hour. This is why so many people are now saying that a preworkout drink is probably a good deal more important than a post workout drink. Whey, in particular, creates a higher spike in blood AA levels than 'slower' proteins, but the AA levels with whey level off much more quickly (almost identical to the disparity between high GI and low GI carbs). Now, with that in mind, wouldn't it make more sense to take your whey almost right before your workout - leading to a very high AA level spike - so that it hits you right after your workout and then to take a slower digesting protein following your workout to sustain blood AA levels (keep in mind the aminos don't hit the blood stream for an hour)? Any opinions on this?
---------------------------- "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!" -- Bob Dylan
|
|
|
2003/03/04, 08:50 PM
What if it hits you in the middle of your workout? On monday's my workout is 1hr50min. Whats your comment?
-------------- Nothing is too small to know, and nothing is too big to attempt!
Ivan Montreal Canada
|
2003/03/04, 09:02 PM
I agree that pre workout is probably more anabolic than post workout, meaning you will get more out of it. But, how about this scenario??? A quality amino acid supplement based on your weight before and during your workout. Mind you the aminos have to be quality, peptide, predigested, meaning they are readily available in a matter of minutes?? Taken at equal spacings during your training, this can be a sound regimine. Remember, quality is key, not some some crushed and molded whey that some companies sell as aminos! One per 10 lbs. of bodyweight, even more if trying to gain serious mass.
-------------- Failing to plan is like planning to fail!
|
2003/03/05, 03:21 PM
Good point bb1! That definately makes a difference. Carivan - that's a good question. I'm not sure how I'd handle a lot of these situations, I'm just ponificating, really. Will protein synthesis not begin until after a workout or does it occur during a workout as well? Regardless of that, well-timed AA's during a workout would, at the very least, assist in anti-catabolic activity. Maybe a casein blend 1-2 hrs. prior to training to achieve a higher than normal AA level and then free-form AA's or hydrolyzed whey prior to workout completion and a meal 2 hours later. Argh! Now I'm even more unsure. BB1, after reading one of your posts I've been looking closer at the type of whey I'm using and considering switching from the usual concentrate to a isolate supplement. I was thinking of the AST VP2 powder, but that's sweetened with aspartame. Any other suggestions?
-------------- "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!" -- Bob Dylan
|
2003/03/05, 04:00 PM
mack i use one sweetened with sucralose. extreme whey isolate. 30grams perscoop
-------------- Nothing is too small to know, and nothing is too big to attempt!
Ivan Montreal Canada
|
2003/03/05, 04:13 PM
I believe optimum nutrition has a jar with 3 diffrent proteins in it.
|
2003/03/05, 04:14 PM
BB1fit 1 per 10 pounds of what?
|