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dogfather Posts: 21 Joined: 2006/02/02	2006/02/13, 09:58 AM Is the difference between a Dumbell Shoulder Press and a Dumbell Military Press the width of the Dbs at the top?
asimmer Posts: 8,201 Joined: 2003/01/07	2006/02/13, 10:26 AM You can get a more natrual range of motion with the dumb bells and each arm/shoulder has to really do it's own work. I think it is useful to include both in your ahoulder routine. -------------- Never, never, never, never give up. - Winston Churchill
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2006/02/13, 10:56 AM What is the difference between a dumbbell shoulder press and a dumbbell military press? -------------- Strength and Honor!
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2006/02/13, 06:29 PM I am under the impression that a military press is standing (Military posture). -------------- Iron and chalk. Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2006/02/13, 09:09 PM Yeah, I do militaries all the time. Just wondering by his wording what exactly he was differentiating between the two. I guess one is seated, was hoping he would clarify. -------------- Strength and Honor!
Mojo_67 Posts: 1,299 Joined: 2003/09/23	2006/02/14, 12:07 AM Gotta go with bb1 and say DB presses are done in a seated position. Beyond that I gotta go with wrestler where military would mean upright, or standing. Mainly beacause I can think of at least one other instance where people refer to the military position as a "length wise form"...all be it, lying down. -------------- Seize the day!
Nyxtikal Posts: 268 Joined: 2005/09/20	2006/02/14, 12:12 AM ive always beleived that same thing.......military are standing, db are sitting
asimmer Posts: 8,201 Joined: 2003/01/07	2006/02/16, 09:15 AM sorry, I didn't read that both were dumbbell, i thought he meant the difference between db press and bb press:(
dogfather Posts: 21 Joined: 2006/02/02	2006/02/16, 03:33 PM What I was feeding towards asking here is "What are the disadvantages/advantages of pushing the Dbs wide above your head rather than pushing them together above your head?" I gather it works your shoulders more if your pushing to a wider position.......
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2006/02/16, 03:36 PM Pushing "inward" Would bring the pec minor/upper pec into it a lil more...while pushing straight above would keep all emphasis on the shoulder....I think -------------- Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack! People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
raiderfanusa Posts: 139 Joined: 2002/06/06	2006/02/23, 01:27 PM F.T. shows the Military Press as SITTING. F.T. also shows D.B. presses as Sitting. I suspect they are the same unless standing D.B. Presses is the Excercise. Military Presses are mostly done with a bar and not D.B.'s. For what it's Worth I am not an expert. -------------- "Do the right Things" and "Do Things Right". You will succeed.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2006/02/23, 02:10 PM The military press was the original press in the olympics. Contestants had to keep an upright posture (Military style) and were not even originally allowed to move their head out of the way. Instead, to keep this military posture, they were required to press the bar AROUND their head. Eventually the rule was rewritten to allow SLIGHT deviation, and the Russian's took this to mean they could press from an arch. Do you really think that they would have a seated lift in the olympics? -------------- Iron and chalk. Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
	2006/02/25, 01:50 AM lier!! what about sitting clean and jerk? thought we forgot about it....didn't u?..... and who can forget the sitting snatch.....
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2006/02/25, 03:21 PM Yes, there is a difference, hence my question early on in the thread. Good post again wrestler. ============ Quoting from wrestler125: The military press was the original press in the olympics. Contestants had to keep an upright posture (Military style) and were not even originally allowed to move their head out of the way. Instead, to keep this military posture, they were required to press the bar AROUND their head. Eventually the rule was rewritten to allow SLIGHT deviation, and the Russian's took this to mean they could press from an arch. Do you really think that they would have a seated lift in the olympics? ============= -------------- Strength and Honor!