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Protein and Creatine?

xtreme_021 Posts: 3 Joined: 2004/06/17	2004/06/28, 08:49 PM Alright everyone heres another puzzling question like i said b4 im 6ft tall and 250lbs now im looking to gain "mass" ive been to a few local health shops and i get told two different things at everyone heres the question- since im trying to build mass should i take protein and creatine ( Cell-Tech) or just creatine no im getting told to just use protein because i already have size to work with and the othes are telling me to use both now what to you guys think is Cell-Tech just for building mass? and if u reccomend i take both how and when should they be taken ? do i use them at the same time? Thanks!!
gsdkain Posts: 53 Joined: 2004/02/23	2004/06/29, 06:24 AM Sounds to me like your shop like my shop will just try to sell you everything they can whether you need it or not. I would'nt worry about the creatine period, celltech or not creatine is way overrated as a supplement and also has yet to be researched about the long term effects it has on users. Personally I have had no noticable effects from creatine, so I must be apart of the 30%approx minority who get no benefits from it, maybe I get it from my diet - High in red meats. As yogi said, Protein should be your first and utmost concern(apart from working out and recovering), protein is the cornerstone of any workout program and should take precedence. Creatine DOES NOT support muscle growth nor will it make your muscles grow any bigger nor will it cut you up. All creatine will do is supply your muscles with a miniscule amount extra of ATP\ADP for muscle use. ie. creatine will only give you a slight increase in energy, that is you may get 1 extra rep from it then if you didnt use it, thats it, nothing more, nothing less. Its also said to be a muscle volumiser, that means it enables your muscles to hold more water, thus making you looking bigger, but after discontinuing creatine use, the muscles will return to normal volumisation. MO - Save your cash on the creatine and buy yourself a quality protein, maybe one of the timed release proteins, for use before bed, to prevent catobolism(?sp) whilst sleeping.
mollywog6 Posts: 7 Joined: 2004/06/17	2004/06/30, 03:45 PM I have found an significant difference in taking creatine. I started to think it was all in my head so I quit taking it and started charting my progress 2 weeks after stopping. Once I started taking it again I didn't notice a difference in mass like some articles suggest, but I did notice a significant difference in the ability I had to push myself harder and harder using heavier weights for more reps. I think what works for one may not work for another. I don't take the full amount recommended as I have the same results w/a lower dose if I take it 30 minutes prior to working out. I found all the increased dosage did was make me a lot more thirsty...which isn't a bad thing...but I can't see throwing the money down the drain when I don't need to. I think it is a matter of each individual person educating themselves the best that they can and trying different things that work for you. After 3 months of trying different things I have found what works for me but it doesn't work for my lifting partner. I guess all that really matters is that one loses the excess weight they are carrying around and works towards a healthier body and mind.