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2007/01/10, 08:54 PM
This probably isn't the best place to post this but I'll do it anyay since a large number of regulars seem to hit this forum. The guys that own this site do a service that's probably close to being if not the best, definitely one of the best on the net. But when it gets down to it, I am sure they would like to make a profit and the trend seems to be heading toward abcbodybuilding.com. I know we all get tired of answering the same questions but new people have the same questions and for me the easy fix was to quit answering. :) The people that login and post stupid questions don't know they are stupid questions. The ridicule they are getting and the put downs make the site appear to be a lot less than what it is. I read a half dozen posts tonight in the short time that I was logged on that had more ridicule than advice. Any ideas how to make it better? Most of us that are on here a lot have been doing this lifestyle for a long time. Those that stick around have adopted something that makes them be what they want to be so I'd like to see some suggestions to stop the small stuff.
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2007/01/10, 08:57 PM
Mike you make a great point......we all started at the exact same spot all the newbies do....
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Curl Jockeys, get outta the squat rack!
Warning:Deadlifting going on!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2007/01/10, 09:37 PM
As you both stated is true and most forget where they came from before They/I/We learned what we have.
The very best way to keep it is to freely give it away and by doing this your reminded that your health is #1 and you keep feeding your memory storage about Healthy Way instead of forgetting and giving into the Burger King Way.
I'm guilty of ridicule in the How Much You Bench Press Thread and just about all How to get a 6 Pack Threads.
If it's not a thread by a New Comer and someone that's been around along time then I think it's fun play and we need this too but your right we need to answer a New Comer proper!
I tried to get that across in 1 thread that was started basicly on complaining about New Comers from a New Comer and for me to see this was a Wake Up call becuase I Have to many years left in my life to just not pay attention to the same old boring question because these are the question I MUST REMEMBER to keep Healthy.
It's just to damn easy to fall back into the World of Crap Health no matter how long you been at it, some people are super strong but in reality most are very weak!
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Knock-Um Down & Keep-Um Down!
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2007/01/10, 09:40 PM
Oh crap my sugestion :(.
1. Mod's too delete all BS replies in a NEW COMERS Post.
2. Everyone to Pay Attention to the post count from the poster because this will tell you if they been around long enough to fun around with and when it's their 1ST POST.
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Knock-Um Down & Keep-Um Down!
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2007/01/10, 09:44 PM
the fitbuddy search is excellent!..and i dont mind be redirected to it...sometimes i forget :( maybe ppl would use it more if it was placed at the top? if thats feasible?
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2007/01/10, 09:49 PM
That's not a Put Down but rather a Proper Response.
Most people like me when 1st here don't even realize there is a search engine until told so.
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Quoting from Velasca:
the fitbuddy search is excellent!..and i dont mind be redirected to it...sometimes i forget :( maybe ppl would use it more if it was placed at the top? if thats feasible?
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2007/01/10, 10:03 PM
Or the stickies...or even other forums...I knew they were there...but always used the general forum...I've just taken to not answering most questions...I'm a little sarcastic even when I don't mean to be...looks like we have some great new community members though....07 is shaping up nicely...
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You put yourself in stupid places....Yes I think you know its true....situations where its easy to look down on you.
I think you like to be the victim...think you like to be in pain...I think you make yourself the victim almost every single day..
....I think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold... is the hand that holds you down.
Everclear
Everything
Are you the victim?
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2007/01/10, 10:21 PM
I just read through some posts....I am all for not beating people up...but I don't want this to turn into a hold everybodies hand and lets sing happy songs together site either...
Don't want to see pink fuzzy bears start popping up like in my quitting smoking forum...AWFUL!!!
If you ask a stupid question...well you get a stupid answer...so next time you learn to think through your questions some more...
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You put yourself in stupid places....Yes I think you know its true....situations where its easy to look down on you.
I think you like to be the victim...think you like to be in pain...I think you make yourself the victim almost every single day..
....I think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold... is the hand that holds you down.
Everclear
Everything
Are you the victim?
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2007/01/10, 10:28 PM
You go girl
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2007/01/10, 10:49 PM
We get into this discussion every once in a while.
I have no concrete answer for how to handle this. Yes, the same questions will be asked over and over and over and over again. And yes we'll need to keep answering them.
Perhaps a little pop up asking "have you searched fit buddy first," or "have you read the stickies?" Probably not possible to do and could get quite aggravating, but for as long as the six pack is portrayed as the be all end all of fitness, we'll get the same questions over and over.
Charlie had a dandy idea; just don't answer them.
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I see the words you are typing, but all I read is *click*click*click*
Be here. Live. Love. Hope. Now. Faith. Believe. You. - Keith Urban
They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself. - Andy Warhol
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2007/01/10, 11:08 PM
I am na newby mustsay I felt very welcomed I have asked many questions over an over LOL but i get great answers yes the fit buddy is great, but, there is so much info that its hard to take in.
But i just wanna say thanks dont beat yourselves upto hard about it,
the strong will survive...
:love:
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2007/01/11, 01:28 AM
I have been the end of a "negative redicule", however I learned from it and doing the research on mine own through fitbuddy and actually showing some desire to listen and take it all in and not shying away from it has made me a staple in the newbies.
As a newbie (3 months) I try to assist those who came along the same questions yeah I did a post cuz i got tired of the questions also, but all comes said and done I don't think we should be so concerned over it especially those ones who ask the dreaded: How do I get a 6 pack?
As long as there is some sort of education in the slap delivered I will feel good about it
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2007/01/11, 08:16 AM
Exactly jay and frenchy...I was the same way...
"As long as there is some sort of education in the slap delivered I will feel good about it"
This is perfect....
I've seen some posts from Amy that are perfect...about the "this question has been asked several times...please use the fitbuddy"...there was a little paragraph she used that was perfect...
The good ones stick around even after a little slap on the hand...This is who we want any way...right????
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You put yourself in stupid places....Yes I think you know its true....situations where its easy to look down on you.
I think you like to be the victim...think you like to be in pain...I think you make yourself the victim almost every single day..
....I think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold... is the hand that holds you down.
Everclear
Everything
Are you the victim?
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2007/01/11, 09:23 AM
I was digging through my pocket and found 2 cents...so here it is.
I agree we need to make certain that we're handling newbies just as we wanted people to handle us when we started. Me personally I started twice...nothing that happened here it was just me. However when I came back I'd probably say it was fitbuddy that kept me going, along with that I made the error of awakening a couple of old threads myself (as we all did) and getting some ridicule for that as well. So I will contest that if fitbuddy stood out more then it would be a valuable resource. However along with that we might consider aging them out and closing threads after so many months of inactivity, this would eliminate the 2 year old threads from popping up and additional ridicule, at a minimum adding something to fitbuddy that sorted by date.
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2007/01/11, 09:58 AM
Very well thought out post stump...you make me proud!!:big_smile:
I agree...we should ditch the OLD ones...but I'm glad to hear I'm not the ONLY one who has gotten trouble for dragging them up...you know...we probably hassle the new ones because WE got hasseled for the same thing...so it's a right of passage...maybe???
Or maybe we are just virtually hazing the newbies....
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You put yourself in stupid places....Yes I think you know its true....situations where its easy to look down on you.
I think you like to be the victim...think you like to be in pain...I think you make yourself the victim almost every single day..
....I think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold... is the hand that holds you down.
Everclear
Everything
Are you the victim?
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2007/01/11, 10:09 AM
I figure if you can't offer constructive advice, don't offer anything at all. That doesn't mean that the constructive advice has to always be warm and fuzzy, but it shouldn't be rude either. Nothing wrong with having a bit of fun, but it's important to read it before posting to insure it doesn't sound offensive. We are all guilty of making an "offensive/sarcastic" post or 2, no biggie, it happens-and sometimes deserved, but I'd hate to see the sight degrade to constant negative posts. Just my 2 cents.
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2007/01/11, 10:29 AM
I think it is like this. I will use Velasca post about body fat tools as an example. While I know steve (wrestler) well enough to know that he was trying to help. She obviously took it the other way. I learned a few things working in retail and this is one of the best things: Preception is what it is all about. Not how you or I may precieve something but how the person we are talking with takes things. Velasca took steves comments in a hurtfull way, that he was mocking her, which he was not. I think in an online enviroment we need to think how someone is going to read and take what we post. that is my 2 cents
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Curl Jockeys, get outta the squat rack!
Warning:Deadlifting going on!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2007/01/11, 10:54 AM
This is true...It doesn't matter how it was meant...it matters how it is perceived....
If we're going for examples...I'll use myself..I made a post about heart rate...staying in a certain heart rate range...and bb1 asked in reply to my post..in so may wrds...not a direct quote...what the hell difference does it make???????....less in more out...all that matters...
And that day...I finally GOT IT!!!!!!!
I quit asking about crap that DOES NOT matter and put my nose to the grind....
Keep It Simple Stu...ok...silly...
But I agree 100%...we should be nicer...sometimes though...
Everybody needs to blow off some steam....
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You put yourself in stupid places....Yes I think you know its true....situations where its easy to look down on you.
I think you like to be the victim...think you like to be in pain...I think you make yourself the victim almost every single day..
....I think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold... is the hand that holds you down.
Everclear
Everything
Are you the victim?
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2007/01/11, 12:01 PM
I think a lot of it has to do with how questions are presented. If you read a question, and it's obvious that the person posting hasn't thought about it at all, you are more likely to give a sarcastic response. If someone has thought out their question, that comes through, and the responses are usually better.
We also have to think about the newbies, and that they may not have read enough posts to "get" our personalities. So what we may think of as being funny, lighthearted banter, others make take as us being rude and demeaning.
You can't please everyone, but I think a good rule of thumb is to treat others how you would want to be treated yourself.
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2007/01/11, 12:03 PM
Amen Cristal
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2007/01/11, 12:13 PM
You can't delete the old threads. My opinion. And we should not hassle someone for bringing up old posts that are valuable. The important ones... not the ones that deal with how much do you bench.
There is far too much information on some of the old threads to just turf them.
We want people to use fit buddy and hassling them for bringing up a thread of value is silly.
I'm guilty of throwing in the odd sarcastic comment, but if I've responded to a six pack question 30 seconds ago and someone asks the same thing right after, it gets a little frutstrating.
Don't delete old VALUABLE posts.
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I see the words you are typing, but all I read is *click*click*click*
Be here. Live. Love. Hope. Now. Faith. Believe. You. - Keith Urban
They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself. - Andy Warhol
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2007/01/11, 12:20 PM
I wasn't talking the good ones...but the worthles ones...if they weren't around...I couldn't have dug them up...I thought they were pretty funny myself...but it was a sore spot....
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You put yourself in stupid places....Yes I think you know its true....situations where its easy to look down on you.
I think you like to be the victim...think you like to be in pain...I think you make yourself the victim almost every single day..
....I think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold... is the hand that holds you down.
Everclear
Everything
Are you the victim?
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2007/01/11, 04:10 PM
I don't think deleting them is acceptable either...however other forums have the ability to close or lock threads so no more messages can be posted to them, but they can still be read.
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2007/01/11, 04:12 PM
Wasn't pointing you out KC... I was just mentioning that sometimes a person gets razzed for asking a legit question on a legit thread which has been dead for a year or two, that's all.
However, if you'd like me to blame you for something, I can probably think of a thing or two. :)
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I wasn't talking the good ones...but the worthles ones...if they weren't around...I couldn't have dug them up...I thought they were pretty funny myself...but it was a sore spot....
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I see the words you are typing, but all I read is *click*click*click*
Be here. Live. Love. Hope. Now. Faith. Believe. You. - Keith Urban
They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself. - Andy Warhol
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2007/01/11, 04:15 PM
I've already said I'm the FT whipping girl...get blamed for it all...even when I'm not around..
must be the whole likin' the spanking thing huh FF?????:big_smile:
OK...back on topic now...couldn't help myself....
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\\\"And your crybaby whiney opinion would be....?????\\\"
saw it on a t-shirt...couldnt resist...
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2007/01/12, 08:51 AM
NO comment I have enough deletes already:love: and im new
WAAAAAAAAAAA
Im gonna be good (today) (wink)
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A** kissing only works if you know which one to kiss.
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2007/01/12, 08:58 AM
I've been ordered to behave too....dang it...:love:
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\\\"And your crybaby whiney opinion would be....?????\\\"
saw it on a t-shirt...couldnt resist...
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2007/01/12, 09:06 AM
You might as well stop posting then cause we know how that's gonna work out for you.
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2007/01/12, 09:09 AM
I got the same feeling....:love:
fridays are TO much fun!!!!!!!!!!
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\\\"And your crybaby whiney opinion would be....?????\\\"
saw it on a t-shirt...couldnt resist...
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