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Carivan
Carivan
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2004/12/03, 04:37 PM
I was just following this and Howdiekat is giving you some great info. The most important nutrient in ones diet is protein.
You did say you eat low fat cheeses, cottage cheese is a great source. Have some before bed.
Hit the weights and you will look great.
Good luck. and feel free to ask us anything.

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SkyDiva
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2004/12/03, 01:24 PM
I am a 31 year old female, 180lbs and 5'7". I am a vegetarian, and have a treadmill at home. I am able to workout 2 hrs a day (split up into morning and evenings)- 7 days a week - and am willing to try anything new such as yoga, pilates, or weight training to maximize results.

I have an event to attend to in 3 months, and would like to lose the most amount of weight by that time. I have a history of using 'irresponsible' weight loss techniques, and would like to avoid any 'desperate measures', I tend to fall for. Could you please suggest some exercise and diet plans that would help me achieve max weight loss, in the healthiest way possible? I am hoping this will develop into a lifestyle change for me as well, as I am willing to work my behind off to get the best results.

Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.
SkyDiva
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2004/12/03, 01:37 PM
Oh, I should add that last year I was a very dedicated "Body for life" trainee, for about 8 months. The program, unfortunately, through me into the hospital as it turns out I am allergic to animal meats. I had to go on steroids to correct the damage that had been done to my body, and as a result - major weight gain. I'm fine now, have regained my health, no longer on steroids, and is why I am starting from scratch again.
howdiekat
howdiekat
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2004/12/03, 01:42 PM
you are in the right place skydiva. the best ways to lose weight are in the exercise and nutritional plans on this site. sign up for a goal-specific program and follow the nutritional guidelines that are provided along with it.

if you have access to a gym or weights, i would start resistance training as soon as possible. building muscle is a key to losing fat. you might gain a little weight when you first start, but that is natural and shouldn't worry you. instead of weighing, take measurements, as this will be a more accurate reflection of how your body is changing.

good luck!

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SkyDiva
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2004/12/03, 01:55 PM
Thank you very much.

I have tried the programs in the past, to modify workouts in the Body for life program, and found them very effective. What's changed for me now, however, is the fact that I am a vegetarian, and I have had difficulty finding any weight training/nutritional programs that are vegetarian friendly. I do get protein from Legumes, Soy, tofu and, Quinoa (mother natures greatest invention) - but am nervous that this is not enough protein for weight resistant training. Would Pilates, Yoga, or Cardio be best for me? Are there Veggie friendly programs out there?
howdiekat
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2004/12/03, 02:32 PM
are you vegan or vegetarian? there are plenty of protein powders out there that aren't animal products. supplements will help you get to your protein goal if you're scared you're not going to meet it.

not taking in 1 g of protein per pound of body weight is not going to keep you from resistance training. it might slow your progress, but it won't keep it from happening. there are plenty of vegetarians who lift. even if you were doing yoga or pilates you'd need to have the same king of protein intake -- does that make yoga and pilates non-veggie friendly? vegetarianism is no excuse to eliminate weight training.

and if you do cardio, you will lose weight but if you don't lift in addition to that you will not be toned.

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SkyDiva
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2004/12/03, 02:51 PM
Fair enough, howdiekat, I guess I was just looking for a Veggie friendly type program, that's all.

I guess I still have the 'body for life mentality' where you need protein at every meal, and that protein is key (and crucial) to maximize results from weight resistance training. I don't have the mind set that protein is as important for those who do predominantly cardio,or yoga type activities, as it is for those who weight train. If I am wrong in this mind set, please correct me.

But just to clarify, I am a new vegetarian (not vegan) and I am finding having protein at every meal very difficult with or without weights. My carb intake has increased dramatically, but more in the form of veggies, fruit and whole grain breads, pasta and rice. To be honest, I'm finding eating Tofu at every meal is about as much fun as it sounds:big_smile:.

But Thank you for your help - I am just having to completely re-train my way of thinking, in as much as my body. Was just looking for suggestions to help me with this.
SkyDiva
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2004/12/03, 04:25 PM
Thank you for your help on this.

I am eating eggs (grain fed) and low fat dairy. I also only eat whole wheat Rice, pasta and bread, and avoid white at all costs. I have also rid my diet of foods with hydrogenated oils, and trans fats.

But I am not noticing much difference in terms of weight loss with these changes, and my energy level is not as high as before. I'm not sure if its the effects of having been on steroids (and I am now off) or the increase in carbs. I will admit, I do eat a lot more rice, pasta and bread then before - albeit it is always whole wheat.

I think you're right about the powders though - there's no harm in getting back into that habit. I guess I am just nervous about protein powder without the weight resistance training (don't ask me why)

But thank you again for your help
howdiekat
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2004/12/03, 03:41 PM
don't get me wrong, you need protein, i'm just saying you'll need to take supplements to get it. and like i said, not getting enough of it will slow your progress, so you're right when you say that protein is crucial to maximixing results. however, it's key to maximizing results wit all fitness-related activities, not just weight training. anytime your muscles are being trained (and yoga and pilates do train your muscles) you will need to re-fuel them with a protein source to aid in recovery. this will prevent tissue breakdown and support lean mass maintenance/gain. lean mass, as you probably know already, is your primary fat burning agent.

as far as supplementing for protein intake, almost everything, if not everything, that now nutrtion makes is vegetarian. also, there is a protein powder that optimum nutrition makes called any whey and it is specially formulated to not denature during cooking/heating. you can add protein powder to anything you eat to increase intake.

sometimes it's hard to get all of your protein from whole foods, especially when you don't eat meat, but there are so many products out there that can help you reach this goal.

questions - can you eat eggs? egg whites are a great, low-fat source of protein. are you eating white or brown rice? if white, switch to brown - white is not good for weight loss.

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princesslodgey
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2004/12/03, 08:55 PM
I agree with the above posts. One thought that I have in relation to your first post, is that you said you were available to train every day - I would recommend having 1 day off per week - it is when you rest that your muscles grow and your body adapts, not when you are training.

If you are able to eat eggs, you should be able to get most of your protein from real food, but a supplement for post workout will help.

The best training for general health is a mixture of cardio, strength and flexibility, and there is absolutely no reason for you to avoid strength training, if you have no injuries. If are intent on avoiding atrength training, you may still find benefit in using protein supplements after training, particularly high intensity cardio.

good luck
asimmer
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2004/12/04, 07:55 AM
Two hours a day is too much.

There is no such thing as a veggie-friendly or non-veggie friendly program, you just have to learn alternate protwein sources. If you eat dairy and eggs you have a good variety to choose from. Many protein powders are available with egg protein or whey protein.

Pick a routine from freetrainers and go.

Howdiekat gives excellent advice, stop, look and listen.

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kaikins
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2004/12/07, 12:20 AM
I have a question, it may be dumb, but I recently joined the gym and on the treadmill, bike, and those kinds of equipment it has things on the panel like fat loss zone and cardio. What is the difference? Is there one, other than cardio is obivously a more intense workout. Does it mean if you are in cardio phase that you aren't burning fat? Plus is 25 minutes of cardio and then weight training enough, 3 to 4 times a week, to lose weight. I need to lose about 30 pounds. Thanks
Leedogg
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2004/12/07, 11:11 PM
Do your weight training first so that you have more energy to put into your lifting. If you have to do cardio on the same day do it after your weights. Also don't center your exercise routine around cardio. Center it around resistance training (weights), because every extra kilogram of lean muscle you put on burns approximately 100 extra calories/hour. It's like doing cardio all the time, 24/7. Good Luck!
princesslodgey
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2004/12/08, 07:06 AM
The fat loss zone is a less intense workout where most of the calories you burn are from fat. In the cardio, you are burning at least as many calories from fat, but you are also burning calories from carb stores(glycogen), so the PROPORTION of energy you burn from fat is lower (although the actual numbers are higher).

If you are reasonably fit, unless you are interested in endurance, then there is little point using the fat loss zone workouts.

Just to clarify - a kilo of muscle burns an extra 100 calories per DAY :O)