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Splenda?? Too good to be good??

bigblue8888 Posts: 15 Joined: 2002/10/25	2002/10/30, 03:54 PM Hi everyone.. I'm Hooked on Splenda in my oatmeal and most baked goodies....but given that it's relatively new to the pseudo-sugar forum, does anyone know if there are any adverse effects with long term usage?? Stuff is great but I have to say ...it's definitely not a coffee sweetener. Big Blue
workingoutgirl Posts: 289 Joined: 2001/11/15	2002/10/30, 04:15 PM I believe not to over use anything. I've heard that some of the diet sodas (diet coke) and some of the sweetners have something..darn cant think of it..begins with an "A" but can affect some people in some serious ways. I do prefer equal on oatmeal and cereals with no sugar. I think the best thing to do (I better practice what I preach eh?) but slowly ween yourself off sugar's and salts. Use the real thing but just start using less amounts..okay they have nicorette patches for smoking...do they have sugar and salt patches that do the same?
Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2002/10/30, 06:05 PM I think your thinking of aspertame workingoutgirl. And to add to aspertame, airline pilots are forbidden to consume it. Right, no diet drinks! Or ANYTHING containing aspertame.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2002/10/30, 06:48 PM Message deleted by moderator due to unsuitable content for this board.
jbennett Posts: 1,558 Joined: 2001/02/28	2002/10/30, 07:36 PM If I'm not mistaken, Splenda is sucralose. Its made from sugar and its not lab created. Long term effects should actually be better than that of sugar because of the calories that sugar (sucrose) contains. -------------- --JBennett "I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!" "Pain is only weakness leaving the body." "Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
workingoutgirl Posts: 289 Joined: 2001/11/15	2002/10/31, 06:09 AM Again, I just think to not over-do it. Better safe, than sorry. I alway like how the FDA comes back on something YEARS after they give it the high five! (We're all gonna die :o)
bigblue8888 Posts: 15 Joined: 2002/10/25	2002/10/31, 09:25 AM Thanks for the feedback...I agree with bennett. I guess it's better to use than aspartame or sacharin since it's derived from pure sugar and not artificially produced.
mackfactor Posts: 766 Joined: 2002/10/17	2002/10/31, 05:25 PM Yep, aspartame, which is marketed under the brand name NutraSweet. I believe that Equal is aspartame, but I'm not positive. The fact that Splenda is derived from suger makes me trust it more than other sweeteners, but I don't want to jump the gun on anything. From what I know they take a sucrose derivative and do something to it so that it doesn't get absorbed in the intestine, hence the no calories.
JulieAnna Posts: 1 Joined: 2004/04/24	2004/04/24, 01:56 PM I realize this is an old discussion, but I came across it when I was googling Splenda. I was looking for information on the internet about it, and NOW am wishing I had done this BEFORE I started using Splenda instead of sugar. I have been experiencing gastro-intestinal problems, headaches, and other symptoms, and it just occurred to me, this morning, that these things didn't start until I began using this stuff. The info I have read on the internet has opened my eyes. I thought it HAD to be harmless because it's made from sugar. Wrong. You can read more about it here: http://www.berglundcenter.com/SPLENDA%20%28sucralose%29.htm As I said, I just came across this board accidentally, but felt that I should register, here, to share this information with everybody. I'm sure some have been able to use Splenda without experiencing any adverse effects. But from what I've learned, I have to believe that it has been the cause of my recent problems. I eat healthy, work out, cross train, and was feeling great because of the benefits from all of these things, UNTIL I started using Splenda. There are also other sites, just google 'Splenda+adverse effects.' I'm a little upset about this, because I have also learned that it might take a while to get this stuff completely out of my system, and I'm already pretty tired of this sick feeling all of the time.
Anni313 Posts: 1,790 Joined: 2004/03/04	2004/04/24, 03:36 PM JulieAnna I'm sorry that you aren't feeling well, although it seems unlikely that it is being caused by Splenda. That's just my opinion. I went to the website you recommended and while it was interesting, I didn't find any science to back up the claims. For instance, they claim that sucralose causes shrunken thymus glands (40%), however, what it doesn't tell you is that the shrunken thymus glands were found only in rats who were fed or injected with 100 times the consumption that one might expect from humans. Researchers found that sucralose did not have that effect on humans, because humans find the taste of sucralose abhorent at such high doses. Expected human daily intake is at a level of 1.1 mg/kg/day. Here is a list of some the actual science behind Splenda, complete with the research data to back it up. Baird, I. M., Shephard, N. W., Merritt, R. J., & Hildick-Smith, G. (2000). Repeated dose study of sucralose rolerance in human subjects. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S123-S129. Barndt, R. L., & Jackson, G. (1990). Stability of sucralose in baked goods. Food Technology, 44, 62-66. Finn, J. P., & Lord, G. H. (2000). Neurotoxicity studies on sucralose and its hydrolysis products with special reference to histopathologic and ultrastructural changes. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S7-S17. Goldsmith, L. A. (2000). Acute and subchronic toxicity of sucralose. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S53-S69. Grice, H. C., & Goldsmith, L. A. (2000). Sucralose - an overview of the toxicity data. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S1-S6. The Healing Arts Online Newsletter. Wysiwyg://partner.38/http://swiftweb.com/ha/aspartame/html. Viewed 20, February 2001. Holder, M. D., & Yirmiya, R. (1989). Behavioral assessment of the toxicity of aspartame. Pharmacology Biochemistry Behavior, 32, 17-26. John, B. A., Wood, S. G., & Hawkins, D. R. (2000a). The pharmacokinetics and metabolism of sucralose in the mouse. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S107-S110. John, B. A., Wood, S. G., & Hawkins, D. R. (2000b). The pharmacokinetics and metabolism of sucralose in the rabbit. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S111-S113. Kille, J. W., Tesh, J. M., McAnulty, P. A., Ross, F. W., Willoughby, C. R., Bailey, G. P., Wilby, O. K. & Tesh, S. A. (2000). Sucralose: assessment of teratogenic potential in the rat and rabbit. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S42-S52. Knight, I. (1993). The development and applications of sucralose, a new high-intensity sweetener. Canadian Journal of Physiology and Pharmacology, 72, 435-439 (REVIEW). Lichtenthaler, F. W., & Immel, S. (1999). Sucrose, sucralose, fructose, and some non-carbohydrate high-potency sweeteners: correlations between hydrophobicity patterns and AH-B-X assignments. Sweet Taste Chemoreception, 21-53. Mann, S. W., Yuschak, M. M., Amyes, S. J. G., Aughton, P., & Finn, J. P. (2000a). A carcinogenicity study of sucralose in the CD-1 mouse. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S99-S106. Mann, S. W., Yuschak, M. M., Amyes, S. J. G., Aughton, P. & Finn, J. P. (2000b). A combined chronic toxicity / carcinogenicity study of sucralose in Sprague-Dawley rats. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S71-S89. Mercola, J. (1997) Sucralose Dangers. http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm. Viewed 10 April, 2001. Mezitis, N. H. E., Maggio, C. A., Kock, P., Quddoos, A., Allison, D. B., & Pi-Sunyer, X. F. (1996). Glycemic effect of a single high oral dose of the novel sweetener sucralose in patients with diabetes. Diabetes Care, 19, 1004-1005. McNeil Speciality. (1998). Splenda (promotional information from McNeil Specialty Products Company). Nabors, L. O., & Gelardi, R. C. (1991). Alternative Sweeteners, Second edition. New York: Marcel Dekker, Inc., p. 194. Quinlan, M., Mialon, V., & Everitt, M. (1999). Effect of storage on the flavours of cola drinks sweetened with different sweetener systems. World Rev. Nutrition Diet, 85, 58-63. Roberts, A., Renwick, A. G., Sims, J., & Snodin, D. J. (2000). Sucralose metabolism and pharmacokinetics in man. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S31-S41. Schiffman, S. S., Sattely-Miller, E. A., Grahm, B. G., Bennett, J. L., Booth, B. J., Desai, N., & Bishay, I. (2000). Effect of temperature, pH, and ions on sweet taste. Psychology & Behavior, 68, 469-481. Sims, J., Roberts, A., Daniel, J. W. & Renwick, A. G. (2000). The metabolic fate of sucralose in rats. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S115-S121. Walters, D. E. Sucralose. http://www.finchcms.edu/biochem/walters/sweet/sucralose.html. Viewed 10 April, 2001. Wiet, S. G., & Miller, G. A. (1997). Does chemical modification of tastants merely enhance their intrinsic taste qualitites? Food Chemistry, 58(4), 305-311. Wood, S. G., John, B. A., & Hawkins, D. R. (2000). The pharmacokinetics and metabolism of sucralose in the dog. Food Chemical Toxicology, 38 (Supplement 2), S99-S106. Yost, D. A. (1989). Clinical safety of aspartame. AFP, 39, 201-205 (REVIEW). -------------- Anni ******* Have you hugged your EFAs today?
froshman Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/07/12	2004/04/24, 03:37 PM Look for things containing sugar alcohol, i.e. glycerol, maltitol etc. Thay are a sugar derivative that is completely safe and has near no impact on your blood sugar levels.
Diana123 Posts: 135 Joined: 2003/02/03	2004/04/24, 04:15 PM I've been using sugar replacers too, I'm not sure if it's aspartame or what it is, but all I know is everytime I use it, I get VERY bloated and my intestines make all sorts of strange noises, and I feel sluggish and sick. The other day I baked some treats and used half real sugar and half of this substitute, and even like this I couldn't sleep due to the bloating and pain. So I don't think I will use these anymore; I say regular sugar(or brown sugar or honey) is ok as long as it's used in moderation.
asimmer Posts: 8,201 Joined: 2003/01/07	2004/04/25, 08:40 AM sugar alcohol dehydrates your stomach, causing cramping, intestinal distress and diarrhea. It depends on how much you eat and probably varies from person to person. -------------- If you fall down seven times, get up eight.
neiltilley Posts: 325 Joined: 2003/03/09	2004/04/26, 05:35 AM I have given up with sweeteners alltogether now as it's just a chore to put into a drink/food a non nutritional substance that gives aftertaste(sacharin, aspartame).. So I missed the boat with the new sucrolose and splenda products. But my mum swears blind that she has tried splenda a couple of times and feels it is this that gives her diarrhea and puts her to sleep where she sits with no energy to fight it. She is diabetic, but told this is safe by hospital. For her it appears it isn't. Is Donald Rumsfeld behind sucrolose as he was with Aspartame, getting it approved prematurely as the money spin outweighs the possible detrament to health? Or am I a typical UK synic?
rmforall Posts: 3 Joined: 2004/05/30	2004/05/30, 12:53 AM http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/935 Comet assay finds DNA damage from sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin in mice: Sasaki YF & Tsuda S Aug 2002: Murray 2003.01.01 rmforall http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages 115 members, 1085 posts in a public searchable archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages 791 members, 16,921 posts in a public, searchable archive It is certain that high levels of aspartame use, above 2 liters daily for months and years, must lead to chronic formaldehyde-formic acid toxicity. Fully 11% of aspartame is methanol-- 1,120 mg aspartame in 2 L diet soda, almost six 12-oz cans, gives 123 mg methanol (wood alcohol). The methanol is immediately released into the body after drinking-- unlike the large levels of methanol locked up in complex molecules inside many fruits and vegetables. Within hours, the liver turns much of the methanol into formaldehyde, and then much of that into formic acid, both of which in time are partially eliminated as carbon dioxide and water. However, about 30% of the methanol remains in the body as cumulative durable toxic metabolites of formaldehyde and formic acid-- 37 mg daily, a gram every month, accumulating in and affecting every tissue. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1071 research on aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde, formic acid) toxicity: Murray 2004.05.29 rmforall Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 USA 505-501-2298 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/927 Donald Rumsfeld, 1977 head of Searle Corp., got aspartame FDA approval: Turner: Murray 2002.12.23 rmforall http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1039 three-page review: aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity: Murray 2003.11.22 rmforall http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1026 brief aspartame review: formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 2003.09.11 rmforall http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1025 aspartame & formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 2003.09.09 rmforall
david_s81 Posts: 543 Joined: 2004/04/09	2004/05/31, 06:06 AM I eat splenda and maltodextrin every day. I feel great. I used to use sugar with my oatmeal, but now I use the fake stuff. I am like a dog though. I can eat just about anything and not get sick, so don't pay too much attention to this....:laugh: -------------- Spark the fire that will torch the numbness inside. If you look too far ahead, you will lose sight of today - Carpe Diem -