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Square One: Need some advice

StonedRaider
StonedRaider
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2003/03/12, 04:23 PM
I am new to the boards and wanted to get some advice if possible.

I am 6'2", 195 lbs, and currently 30 years old. I have always been thin, but I have put on alot of weight this past year. I have was always been around 165 lbs to 175lbs at the most, plus I use to smoke cig's. But as I said this past year I ate alot of food and drank alot of beer (football season ya know), plus I gave up smoking (yeah !).

Anyway, I just bought a CrossBow machine and want to get back in shape as well as lose this GUT !!, not to mention the small man boobs I am getting (lol).

I went to GNC to buy some Ripped Fuel Xtreme or Hydroxycut, but the guys their told me to get this Total Lean stuff. So I got that and Met-Rx. I have been working out for this past week, and taking the Met-Rx 3 times a day. I have totally changed my eating habits. I eat egg whites / fruits / salads/ chicken / fish / veggies. I gave up the soda, beer, red meats, pasta's, rice, beans.... So my question or where I need advise is...Is this Total Lean what I should really use ? I mean I have a big belly now, and I have tried to do the ABS workout with my normal routine and man does it hurt. I don't mind being heavier, I acutally like it, but I want to lose my gut !!

Does anyone have a plan or routine I can follow ? even advice on supplements ? how to take them ? should I get more ?

Thanks in advance.......
arturo03
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2003/03/13, 10:23 AM
do not give up red meat and pastas because they are important for energy and muscle regeneration. to help with fat loss combine cardio with resistance training

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dahayz
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2003/03/13, 10:53 AM
Stoneraider, you can still get great results without red meat and pasta. The problem is, when people eat pasta they don't just eat one cup, but a whole plate full and then go back for seconds. Your current diet sounds pretty good, eating enough fruits and veggies can provide you with enough fuel for your workouts and of course, keep that protein intake high.
StonedRaider
StonedRaider
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2003/03/13, 02:47 PM
Thanks guys for the input. I checked my weight today and loss already 5 lbs just by changing my diet. I spoke to another person regarding abs. I tell you it is hard for me to do the crunches due to the GUT, and he told me not to do any abdominal exercises. It will only build muscle under the fat. I should be doing Cardio exercises instead, at least until I lose the gut.

Any suggestions as to what type of Cardio would be best to lose the weight around my waistline ? I was thinking of getting a exercise bike but don't know if that's the best route.
snee
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2003/03/13, 03:14 PM
I don't agree with not doing any abdominal exercises, you need to condition your abs and your lower back in order to progress with any other exercises, if your core isnt strong you are setting yourself up for injury. If you cant do crunches etc...do lying leg raises, lying knee ups, ball back extensions.
Cardio is over rated, however since its the current "holy grail", I would take the high intensity training route, not only will it get your heart rate up, it works on short bursts of energy so you have small goals that you can accomplish which will give you a pat on the back (which we all need) as well as helping to avoid the tedium that comes with long bouts of cardio. You can do the HIIT on any piece of equipment, or run up and down the stairs a couple times, do timed jump rope drills.
Good luck!
arturo03
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2003/03/13, 04:01 PM
snee obviously doesnt know a damn thing about fitness, what does she mean cardio is over rated, its not nessesary but it helps out a lot with burning fat. but i do however agree with the high intensity training.

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dahayz
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2003/03/13, 06:20 PM
haha, arturo, i agree. Stonedraider, if your gut is to big to perform crunches with proper biomechanics, than it would be advisable to lose some of the bodyfat first. One thing people always do is put there wants in front of there needs. People want a great set of abs, but in stoneraiders case, it may be physically impossible. Don't worry about, building YOUR perfect body is a lifetime journey. Enjoy it.
Carivan
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2003/03/13, 06:59 PM
Hold on here guys/girls....You are all right! Maybe I'm wrong.
First the original thread, congrats on the effort to change your lifestyle Stoneraider. I cant help you with a routine on the crossbow as I don't own one and work with free weights and cardio. Didn't it come with a video and a website to check out?
As for the ab exersises, I would suggest you do something.
You don't have to do 500 crunches (lol) you can do leg raises instead. Nobody in thier right mind can successfully start off doing crunches and think they can do 30-50. Try doing 2 sets of 6 for now. Add in lying down leg raises.
The abdominal muscles are just as important as the lower back muscles. This is the center of the universe and supports all our weight, especially when you do heavier weights on your machine.
And for the cardio just being rated as the "holy grail" i would have to disagree. It is a good form of warming up before doing any resistance training, and helps speed up our metabolism to burn fat. Just my 2 cents (cdn)!

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Ivan Montreal Canada
dahayz
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2003/03/13, 09:07 PM
I am looking at this in a totally different way carivan. Think about it, if a person has trouble doing one crunch, than doing a few sets will do nothing but make that person adapt to incorrect form. Excessive pulling on the neck, not properly exhaling allowing sternum to move towards the pelvis. When you do a proper crunch, your neck should not be stiff. In a fully contracted position, you should be able to look left or right with ease. When I had to observe people doing various exercises for kineseology, I noticed that most people tense there necks to much, which takes away from the proper biomechanics of the basic crunch. So, if he has any problems doing crunches, than he should first work on proper posture, and sucking in his abdominals. Which goes back to what I said earlier, needs have got to come before wants. That's all I was saying.
Carivan
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2003/03/13, 09:14 PM
Yes dahayz, needs must come b4 wants. This is why I'm saying only do 6 crunches, or even 3 for that matter, get the form, the motion etc. Don't you think the lying leg raises would work as a sub? One has to keep those abs strong, I'm not saying as in a 6 pack.

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Ivan Montreal Canada
dahayz
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2003/03/14, 07:55 AM
I was thinknin about this some more ( all i think about is working out and when to eat, LOL) and I agree that a few partial crunches and leg raises would probably be beneficial under supervision to make sure all is going well. Good feedback.
Carivan
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2003/03/14, 09:03 AM
I call this the big funnel....we get in to working out and eating corectly, and cardio, (Spelling) but forget why, and which one comes first, and also the many good reasons. Sometimes we forget all about what you mentioned with regards to kineseology. Good point.


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Ivan Montreal Canada
7707mutt
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2003/03/14, 09:15 AM
I find that with crunches (i also have a big gut) if I cross my hand over my chest, concentrate and keeping my neck straigth by looking at the cieling, and lifting my shoulders off the groun by using my abs only. You really do not have to lift far LOL and hold it really squeeze the abs. It works to burn them good.

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IF YOU CAN STILL ITCH YOUR NOSE AFTER ARM DAY, GO DO ANOTHER SET!!!