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GLENFLEX Posts: 1 Joined: 2001/11/10	2000/12/06, 10:23 PM WUZ up I am about to start my first cycle of steroids and I was wondering if anyone had any advice )I am starting with test anteanate and DECA I am excited!!!! Thanks G
1585 Posts: 8 Joined: 2000/12/06	2000/12/06, 11:02 PM Sounds kewl, to bad i can't get ne of those in Canada i don't think. :*(
jonus Posts: 1 Joined: 2000/12/07	2000/12/07, 09:22 PM Hey G you can do it without steroids. Don't cheat yourself and do that shit. With todays technology and supplements you can do it without steroids. But hey it is your life so this is just some friendly advice. But hopefully you will take it to heart and sell or get rid of those roids. I have seen people take juice and a couple years later they are so jacked they can't even get out of bed. So my advice is said. Later Jonus
Sizling Posts: 73 Joined: 2000/12/05	2000/12/08, 09:24 AM I definitely agree... you don't need them nowadays. I had a good friend who messed himself up badly...but its up to you!
I_sly Posts: 102 Joined: 2000/12/07	2000/12/09, 06:27 PM Try your hardest to get all your AA's from natural resources. Egg yolks have all the essential AA's you need they are natures perfect food!!! Look into it!
Derek_R Posts: 19 Joined: 2001/11/10	2000/12/15, 12:17 AM sup, i took aminos a while back theres nothin wrong with em except mine where horse pills they were huge. any way i nothing wierd happend to me form useing them.
xavier Posts: 333 Joined: 2001/01/02	2000/12/10, 02:52 AM You should get an estrogen blocker G to avoid bitch tits. Steriods arnt really that bad as long as u dont abuse them.
xavier Posts: 333 Joined: 2001/01/02	2000/12/11, 09:56 PM Hav any of u guys ever used parabolan if yes where did u find it and how did it work
Derek_R Posts: 19 Joined: 2001/11/10	2000/12/15, 12:21 AM How you get hooked up with steriods? i'd like to try em out and see what its like. i dont think just goin to the gym and say "yo where the steroids at". Thanks.
DD Posts: 13 Joined: 2000/12/15	2000/12/15, 09:55 AM Need your profile and what dosage do you have in mind and cycle length.Do you have clomid or relevant to start the testees going after the cycle?
Legend Posts: 45 Joined: 2000/12/26	2001/01/08, 08:54 PM what is clomid and relevant
toxibunny Posts: 1 Joined: 2001/11/10	2000/12/18, 09:35 AM Hi G Toxicbunny here, Deca? Ye very good for a person whow is starting with roids, but just remember a roids are danger A big no,no. My gains in the gym for the past 4 months where +/- 40 pounds. Follow a correct diet and forget about roids. No money? U do not need suplements It is all in your head follow your hart and train like an animal and u will kick bud. Creatine does work ( prolab ) is the best. See u
xavier Posts: 333 Joined: 2001/01/02	2000/12/18, 10:44 PM decas good but you should start with sostenon 250 gives you more strength and is pretty safe use like an estrogen blocker to help prevent bitch tits.
allgino4life Posts: 31 Joined: 2000/12/21	2000/12/30, 04:13 PM good luck just dont overdue your intake
cbutler01 Posts: 12 Joined: 2000/12/13	2001/01/01, 09:39 PM Good luck. Most of the above comments warning against steroids are downright ignorant. They are meant for getting past your natural limitations. Which we do all have regardless of whether or not you say it can be accomplished without juicing. Just make sure you ahve clomid and nolva on hand and you should be more than fine.
bore Posts: 320 Joined: 2000/12/30	2001/01/07, 01:54 AM Use 20 gauge needles to get it into your muscles. I've never used them but have a lot of friends that have. Drink more water and make sure you don't damage your joints. Rob
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2004/03/24, 11:42 AM Look at it this way: You are putting a product in to your body that is not needed by a healthy body. Now, steroids of many types (anabolics, corticosteroids, etc.) have legitimate uses and applications. However, these products (and this goes for any substance) can have detrimental effects in a system that does not need them. Another example, though maybe an extreme one, is introduction to Mercury: your body can adjust to very low levels of exposure to this chemical, but over-contamination can have severe consequences (such as eating too much canned tuna while pregant). So, a healthy person taking anabolics once a week could be quite problematic, but to a person who is severely deficient in such a hormone, this may not even be a drop in a bucket and be completely ineffective. Remember, anabolics are nothing magical - you still have to eat, train, and rest in order to make progress. -------------- Michael Trample the weak; hurdle the dead! Chaos, Panic, Disorder.... Yes, my work here is done! rev8ball@freetrainers.com
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2004/03/24, 12:39 PM Good point Mike! I think a lot of the newer and younger crowd sees steriods as a easy out. Most pros that use that stuff still train harder than ever to get what they have.... -------------- LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
neiltilley Posts: 325 Joined: 2003/03/09	2004/03/25, 07:57 AM as an ignorant man... I can only say that forced agjustment to your hormone balance is not natural and should be supervised by a professional (Doctor maybe?). The side effects can be bitch tits,kidney failure,deppression, anger problems, hairy ladies, small balls, over sexed, under sexed, heart problems etc... etc... Anyone doing this needs good medically trained observation. I would say don't do it it's wrong but then I'm ignorant like the users of the steriods who are ignorant of the symptoms.
asimmer Posts: 8,201 Joined: 2003/01/07	2004/03/25, 08:26 AM Now I am picturing guys on steroids being plagued by hairy ladies...:) -------------- "To be able to go to the gym and train hard is a joy and a privelege, even though the hard work necessitates driving yourself through considerable discomfort. Savor this privelege and blessing, and revel in it." Stuart McRobert, Beyond Brawn
david613m Posts: 31 Joined: 2004/03/09	2004/03/25, 10:55 AM I'm surprised that this discussion has been so balanced on both sides. I always understood that steroids were extremely bad for you if just used to build muscle, and that they are illegal unless you have a perscription. Check out (http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofax/steroids.html). Now, I'm starting to wonder about other advice I've gotten on these boards, though, about supplements and the likes. If there are so many proponents of steroids on this board, maybe I need to think twice about the supplements and other things people have been proposing . . .
hecdarec Posts: 2,457 Joined: 2003/12/16	2004/03/25, 10:57 AM I dont put anything into my body except for food and creatine. I dont care who endorses it. -------------- My gym dues are not paid with money.
Kyrah Posts: 251 Joined: 2004/03/11	2004/03/25, 11:05 AM My 2 Cents, stay away from the steroids. They are illegal for a reason and should only be used by people who have a valid medical need for them. For Example, my 11 year old brother has Duchene's <spelling?> Muscular Dystrophy and requires steroids just to be able to stand up and walk short distances. . . this is an acceptable use. . . the guy who takes them because he isn't "cut" or "buff" enough is just vain and needs to get a reality check! -------------- Love me as I am . . . Let me worry about how I look!
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2004/03/25, 11:25 AM David613m most of thsi post is 4 years old and 99% of us here do not advise roids usage at all. Do a search on fitbuddy and read some of the post on this.... -------------- LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
clandress Posts: 94 Joined: 2003/09/21	2004/03/25, 11:26 AM This is the ultimate in vanity, if you willing to accept all the risks of steriods just to get that extra boost, then you have weak character.... Hell, it would be cheaper to get lyposuction and lots of cosmetic surgery to acheive your goals. I dont see how this could help your self esteem. To me, doing the work and reaping the rewards are the best parts of weightlifting and diet. Its all about how it makes you feel about yourself. The confidence, the extra energy, pride and downright glory of overcoming your limits from the previous week. This is a cheat that has no adverse affect on any of the best parts of living this lifestyle.... just my 2 cents. -------------- If your muscle wont allow you to do the last few reps, make your mind and heart do it. Your muscles will thank them later.
jcannuck Posts: 210 Joined: 2004/01/31	2004/03/25, 11:46 AM Hey Rev8, I thought that the canned tuna was O.K., and that it was the freash that had the mercury? (P.S. - I know this has nothing to do with roids!)
jrocyou23 Posts: 49 Joined: 2004/03/02	2004/03/26, 10:11 AM I've thought about stacking a cycle a few times but whats the point....Training is about health and a sense of well being. -------------- Jay
david613m Posts: 31 Joined: 2004/03/09	2004/03/26, 11:14 AM Good point, 7707mutt, didn't see how old the posts were. And I am glad to know that the people who I normally see posting didn't sign on to the benefits of steroids discussion.
esmuva06 Posts: 57 Joined: 2003/11/10	2004/03/30, 02:29 PM with me i'd just rather know i did it all on my own. not because of steroids and taking the easy way out
esmuva06 Posts: 57 Joined: 2003/11/10	2004/03/31, 08:13 PM sometimes you just need to check the context dog. we are talkin about steroids... everyone on the board knows that you can't just get big by taking steroids, you gotta work hard. but it happens a lot FASTER and a lot easier with steroids... i don't know anyone in the world who can successfully debate against that... i think you just misunderstood me
jrocyou23 Posts: 49 Joined: 2004/03/02	2004/04/01, 02:29 PM Glenflex if you're still around this site just make sure you do it right. You should be done with your bulking stage test and dec. Now unless you plan on doing a cutting cycle of fina or something you should take Chlomid and Nolvadex. It will help you maintain your gains and help with balancing out your test levels and most likely prevent gyno. Not condoning the roids but if you are to do them, then you might as well do them right. -------------- Jay
	2004/04/02, 07:34 PM You should first train hard, eat well and get plenty of rest. Do that for the first few years and see what gains you make and what you can do with your body naturally, because that is the best shape your body will ever be in. Sure, you'll be bigger when on drugs, but you will never be able to keep that size when your drug use stops, and by then you'll be lucky if your health has only minimally suffered due to the effects of doping. So, what you can do yourself is where you'll end up in the long run, just with more damage if you take the drug route.