Group: Health Supplements

Created: 2012/01/01, Members: 102, Messages: 16613

Supplements can be a great aid with your health and fitness goals. Combined with the proper exercise and nutritional plan they can be quite effective.

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Supplements don't work?

maelstrom101886
maelstrom101886
Posts: 24
Joined: 2004/10/01
United States
2004/10/11, 08:58 PM
Hi, I subscribed to this guy's newsletter and according to him, "Many different "meal replacement" powders and shakes, also know as
RTD's, are sold as being a substitute for a real, whole food meal.
The makers claim that they are "just as good, if not better, than
eating a real meal". They claim to have higher amounts of protein,
lower amounts of sugar, and add in ingredients such as BCAA's,
Glutamine, Creatine, HMB, CLA, so on and so forth. They claim that
your muscles need a high amount of this and that, and that you
can't get those from just eating the right foods. .....That's what
the makers claim.

First off, as discussed in the eBook "Muscle Gain Truth Exposed:
Secrets Revealed!", and on the website, no supplement that is out
on the market right now will build any kind of real, permanent
muscle on your body, none! Not creatine (which makes you gain
nothing but "water weight"), not glutamine, not HMB, not any one of
them."

Also he said that
"So, when a meal replacement shake or powder advertises that it is
better than eating whole food because it contains all of these
extra "muscle building ingredients", don't be fooled. Even if it
actually contains those ingredients, they don't work anyway!

Second, meal replacements claim to have a certain amount of protein
grams, carb grams, and fat grams. Well, lately there have been
several analysis done on many popular supplements, and it has been
discovered that many of them do not contain the amount of
ingredients as printed on the label!! Just 2 months ago a report
was written that a popular "protein bar", that claims to taste like
Snickers, contained up to 7% less amount of protein than the label
claims. And it contained much more sugar than stated. Many of
these makers "skim" on the ingredients to bring the cost down of
making those supplements, while lying on the nutrition labels, just
to make a bigger profit!"

Is this true?!?!?! Am I just wasting.. any comments? money?!?!?! :angry::angry:

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JustinE22
JustinE22
Posts: 1,312
Joined: 2003/09/18
United States
2004/10/11, 09:35 PM
Check this article out, i posted on here a week ago.

http://www.freetrainers.com/FT/jsp/Message.jsp?f_ix=13&t_ix=2111

Protein,Creatine,dextrose, and malto is a good starting block oops almost forgot glutamine. As for MRP, they should only be used in a pinch. make your own protein bars, better and cheaper.
kakaroto
kakaroto
Posts: 893
Joined: 2002/05/09
El Salvador
2004/10/11, 09:39 PM
Supplements are what the mean: supplement.
First is food then are supplements.
they only help you reach your goals.

if you dont eat, sleep and rest the quantities you need, supplements wont work.
nutritionworks
nutritionworks
Posts: 66
Joined: 2004/09/18
United States
2004/10/11, 10:10 PM
I am a little confused by the terminology in the post. It sounds like you have done some research, but have let it all blur together. First of all, kakaroto hit the nail on the head. Supplements are to help fill nutriotnal gaps and ASSIST, not replace healthy eating habits. Meal replacement shakes/powders (don't confuse them with protein powders/shakes) usually are not meant to gain muscle, they are meant as a substitute when time restrictions or lack of cooking/food choosing skill prevent you from having a good meal. Lots of people use them for breakfast when rushed to get up, get ready for work, and not be late. Better than the alternative of skipping a meal, especially breakfast.

You named several ingredients which are not muscle builders alone, but used in the correct time line, can assist your progress when weight training. Creatine, HMB, Glutamine will not build muscle, you are correct, but used correctly can help with energy for muscles to work, prevent muscle break down, and aid in recovery from the stress of a workout.

Hope that helps. I am no expert, but I have had great results with supplements myself, both for weight loss and now for muscle gain, because I know they are an ASSISTANT and not a REPLACEMENT.

Nutrition works!