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Zenkei18
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2006/02/13, 12:10 PM
Has anyone watched that documentary? It\'s about hilarious because it shows Greg Valentino in all his glory with his infected arm and he blamed ALL of it on steroids. Like he surely couldn\'t have got the infection through a synthol injection *yawn*. Anyone that sees his arms knows that there\'s a huge difference between his arms and people\'s that use steroid\'s arms.
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Leedogg
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2006/02/13, 04:28 PM
What channel was it on?
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bigandrew
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2006/02/13, 04:54 PM
TLC i think-------------- Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack! People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it. |
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wrestler125
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2006/02/13, 06:26 PM
Valentino was a well known synthol user. I have never heard him blame it on steroids. For the record, synthol is an oil, not a steroid.-------------- Iron and chalk. Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. |
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Nyxtikal
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2006/02/14, 12:11 AM
isnt that the stuff that enflames the muscle, giving it that unnatural and really bulky look?
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Leedogg
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2006/02/14, 12:17 AM
http://tlc.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=55107&gid=0&channel=TLC
It's on again February 23rd, and 24th. Set your DVRs! |
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wrestler125
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2006/02/14, 12:21 AM
You mean exactly like his muscle look???
============ Quoting from Nyxtikal: isnt that the stuff that enflames the muscle, giving it that unnatural and really bulky look? ============= -------------- Iron and chalk. Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. |
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Nyxtikal
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2006/02/14, 12:24 AM
haha......so you're telling me that didnt all come from hardwork and dedication:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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gangstershoes
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2006/02/14, 02:18 PM
it's scary where bodybuilding sometimes heads.
I want to see the show though. Sounds like a train wreck. |
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bigandrew
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2006/02/14, 05:40 PM
He injects this oil(mcts) under the muscle so it makes a oil bubble.....only is temporary though.... body uses it for fuel.
Some body builder use it before shows to bring out a weak muscle or somthing......can be dangerous as you see... -------------- Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack! People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it. |
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gangstershoes
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2006/02/15, 09:02 AM
So did he inject it while he was in jail for the year or whatever? Because supposedly the oil should be absorbed after a week or so, but his arms were still 24-25 inches when he got out.
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sstump1
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2006/02/15, 12:01 PM
I can't decide what's worse? The injections of MCT's by the occassional BB which eventually is used by the body or the use of injections of minute amounts of botulism by millions of people.
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bigandrew
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2006/02/15, 01:49 PM
you have to keep injections in it.....body absords some of it and eventually all of it.....prolly takes weeks to get completly out of his system....since its not being digested by the stomche....and being diffused threw celluar membranes.....but i dunno....he's an idiot-------------- Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack! People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it. |
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gangstershoes
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2006/02/16, 09:15 AM
so if he couldn't take it for over a year or so while in jail and his arms are nothing but MCT then how come he measured in with 25 inch arms when he got out of jail?
That's the only thing that I think Greg has going for him. He is a self proclaimed freak, but some of the accusations against him aren't adding up from my neutral view point. |
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bigandrew
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2006/02/16, 12:45 PM
dunno but i doubt he came out with 25in arms...But you can get needles and junk in prison too....hince tats....maybe he used somthing besides synthol? -------------- Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack! People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it. |
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wrestler125
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2006/02/16, 12:49 PM
There was an interview with him a while ago. I believe he admitted to using propionate and Equipoise. This is like synthol, in that it stretches muscle fascia and causes a "swelling" in the muscle, in addition to localized growth.
Greg is NATURALLY a big guy. However, steroids and synthol wouldn't be hard to find in prison. -------------- Iron and chalk. Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. |
2006/02/16, 01:19 PM
drug/steroid use in prisons is quite visible...it's not a problem finding what u need....if u want it bad enough....
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bigandrew
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2006/02/16, 01:21 PM
What Is Synthol?
Synthol is composed of 85% medium-chain triglyceride oils (a fatty acid), 7.5% lidocaine (painkiller), and 7.5 5 benzyl alcohol. The preparation is injected deep into the muscle where it is encapsulated between the fascicles (bundles of muscle fibers) . With repeated injections, a larger volume of oil builds up inside the muscle, expanding its size like a balloon filling up with air. About 30% of what is injected is metabolized by the body. The other 70% remains lodged in the muscle where it breaks down very slowly over three to five years. There seems to be some issue of debate among bodybuilders as to whether or not Synthol actually lasts this long, and some believe it is even longer. Chris Clark, its inventor, is convinced that it somehow leads to permanent muscle growth in the effected areas, though even he is unsure of the mechanisms that would make this possible. Synthol users report amazing pumps while training, though this could be a result of the extra pressure of the accumulated oil. -------------- Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack! People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it. |
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gangstershoes
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2006/02/16, 03:11 PM
Parole drug screening after jail, being locked up in jail for a year for steriod use and selling, having his own section of Muscular Development magazine, showing up at various body building events but not to compete. It just sounds like people are being kind of quick to judge on the guy from what I've read about him. I pull these things from the following two sites that documented their interviews with the guy.
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=211hate http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/greggvalentino.htm I don't think it's right to have oil filled 27 inch arms, because I view it as fake, but if he has proof of not using oil and his arms are 25.5 inchs, I say give the guy recognition for having those arms. I don't know, since I'm a natural body builder I don't like to hear about the latest and greatest steriod filled freak, but I'll give them the recognition for being the size they are. I know they shortened their life to get there, but that was their choice and it's not mine. I guess my point is 25.5 to 27 isn't a big difference and honestly most people can get another 1.5 inches just from measuring incorrectly. |
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bigandrew
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2006/02/16, 03:39 PM
I don't think his arms are natually 25in either....I mean look at the surrounding muscle.....Ronnie has 25in arms or so.....hulk hogan claimed to have the 24in pythons....But they were in portion. I don't think theres anyway besides synthol, to get his arms THAT out of portion with his body.
Body tries to find a balance of muscle groups. -------------- Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack! People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it. |
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wrestler125
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2006/02/16, 05:17 PM
Yea. I mean, MY forearms are better developed than his, and I am a 150lb rock climber.
Talk about out of proportion. -------------- Iron and chalk. Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run. |
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slippery_chimp
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2006/02/19, 07:09 AM
argh I wouldn’t mind watching that - don't get that channel in the UK - if anyone happens to be a torrent uploader it would be much appreciated! :big_smile: (how cheeky am I?!)-------------- |
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sivysivy
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2006/02/22, 01:27 AM
I watched it too-- it was crazy!
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Tinnuk
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2006/02/21, 04:31 PM
I saw a bit of that (gross as hell).
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sstump1
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2006/02/21, 08:10 PM
I recorded this on DVR...told my wife I wouldn't subject her to it, so she leaves town next week so I'll watch it then after the kids go to bed.
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rd42264
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2006/02/28, 07:30 PM
HE WAS SHOOTING EVERTHING UNDER THE SUN INTO HIMSELF. HIS ARMS LOOK TERRIBLE. HOW CAN ANYONE SAY THAT HE LOOKS GOOD?
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Big-E
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2006/02/28, 07:37 PM
Oops I saw an older thread about this and posted a vid:
http://www.freetrainers.com/FT/jsp/pro/Message.jsp?f_ix=4&t_ix=525 If you keep missing the special, here is a vid to watch. Note: It is not pretty: http://www.theync.com/armsvideo.htm |