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trainer plan?

charlesbtemple
charlesbtemple
Posts: 7
Joined: 2004/11/25
United States
2005/03/03, 06:15 PM
My trainer wants me to go on a cutting program by cardio on an empty stomach first thing in the morning 5 days per week. No post workout shake but eating 6x per day and is removing red meat, dairy and fruit from my diet. This goes against everything I have ever read. I can imagine my muscle mass leaving my body!!! Does this plan make sense? Do I need a second opinion??
2005/03/03, 06:43 PM
I disagree with it...in several aspects

Dairy for one actually decreases appetite, provides calcium, and good amounts of protein....this is a must in any diet

Five days a week cardio is a bit too much....I would do about 3 days of specific cardio...doing 30-60 minutes at your Target Heart Rate....0.70*(220-age)....you can monitor it on most new cardio equipment in gyms.....

I would instead focus on doing weight lifting 3-4 days a week...

I would also have something light before my morning run like a banana or a bagel....something light half hour before the run...

Postworkout shake with 30-60g of protein and 60-120g simple carbs is ESSENTIAL to get the most out of your workout...taken ASAP after you get done working out...and within 30 minutes....

Get another trainer....I have run into so many Jokers....24hrs...for example 'certifies' them in a week...where they barely know anything....or 'FitnessUSA' i think whose people I am not even sure are certified...the ones I ran into....generally speaking look that they have AT LEAST one nationally recognized certification....NASM,ISSA,ACE,AFAA, etc...many top clubs also require a 4 year BS/BA degree in Sports Science or Kinesiology....look around...if you pay for a personal trainer....make sure you get your money worth...also make sure the guy training you is fit....because I personally ran into so many overweight trainers that it's almost ironic...(if they did what they preached or knew what they were doing they wouldn't be overweight......many of them are in their early 20s...so they should have no excuses)
kakaroto
kakaroto
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El Salvador
2005/03/03, 07:23 PM
change your trainer.
cardio on empty? dang you will lose all the muscle you got man... very quickly. thats the worst thing you can do to your body (if your goals are gaining muscle)

and yes, cardio everyday seems a bit much.
look up for HIITon fitbuddy, it will help you burn more fat
charlesbtemple
charlesbtemple
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Joined: 2004/11/25
United States
2005/03/03, 07:53 PM
The trainer has a degree in the subject and is in contests too. He is one of the best in town. He said it is for cutting only and I should not expect to get bigger. Just it sounds counterproductive to me.
2005/03/03, 08:13 PM
I think a lot of old backward info/thinking still persists to today....even when it's been proven/shown wrong......as good as he is....go get a 2nd opinion...
JustinE22
JustinE22
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2005/03/03, 08:22 PM
Change trainers:)
kakaroto
kakaroto
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El Salvador
2005/03/03, 09:27 PM
well. if you say he is what he is...
but i just cant buy the cardio on empty
Carivan
Carivan
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2005/03/03, 09:45 PM
Well, the above posts say it all. I just have to say this. If you are not concerened about your gains or losses, ask the trainer if he will accept paymet for the sessions after you see the results. If he is confident that this will work for you, then he shouldn't have a problem with it.

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bb1fit
bb1fit
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2005/03/03, 09:34 PM
"Conventional wisdom" dies hard sometimes. That is exactly what fasted state cardio is/was. The only time you should even think about this is if you have mistimed your diet for example for a contest, and you are willing to sacrifice some hard earned lean tissue along with fat to make the show date.

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