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2006/11/06, 04:21 PM
Granted the guy was an ass for yelling at the employee (I've had to deal with morons like that before in the gym), but it's sad to see something so trivial and so ridiculous become policy in the first place:
Tony Aiello
Reporting
(CBS) WAPPINGERS FALLS, N.Y. You can lift, strain, crunch and sweat all you want at the Planet Fitness in the Dutchess County village. But whatever you do, do not grunt.
Yep, "no grunting." It says so, in black and white, on a sign posted at the gym. One former member learned the new rule the hard way.
"This is really absurd, especially the part about the grunting," said Al Argibay, a corrections officer who learned first-hand "no grunting" means exactly that.
Argibay, a former competitive bodybuilder, joined the gym in September because it was affordable and convenient.
Planet Fitness is also somewhat picky, with a long list of
dos-and-don'ts posted right inside the door.
"No grunting or screaming" is listed, along with "no bandanas or
do-rags."
"We're creating an atmosphere that's not intimidating," said Carol Palazzolo, the gym manager, who yanked Argibay's membership on Monday.
Argibay said he was at a multi-press station, getting ready to squat about 500 pounds when the forbidden sin happened. "I let out a grunt, squatted down, back up, grunt again. That's it," explained Argibay. "Basically, grunt, grunt, basic breathing in heavy, and breathing out."
Grunting is commonplace at most gyms, but not Planet Fitness, which discourages so-called "musclehead behavior."
There's even a flashing light and siren on the wall, labeled a "lunk alarm," which sounds if someone grunts or drops weights on the floor.
Palazzolo admits she called the cops on Argibay. The Wappingers Falls police report said officers were asked to "escort a member out of the club for grunting while working out...which is not conforming with the rules of the establishment."
But Palazzolo said that's only part of the story.
"He did grunt, and when I told him he wasn't allowed to grunt, he got irate at me, he swore, and he yelled at me," Palazzolo said. "I asked him not to [grunt), he got irate and nasty, and I can't have him in my facility if he's gonna do those kind of things."
Argibay denied he yelled, cursed, or acted inappropriately. He demanded an apology from the gym and its manager.
"It's an attack on my character, and it's very embarrasing, and an insult," Argibay said. "At the end of the day, after serving your community as a corrections officer, the last thing I want is to be escorted out of the gym by the local authorities."
Palazzolo is standing her ground.
"I'm not out to hurt anybody," she said. "If he feels I hurt his feelings, I apologize for that, but I do not apologize for the way I handled the situation and I am not apologizing for our etiquette at Planet Fitness."
It's not personal, she said, it's policy. Grunters should go elsewhere.
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Michael
That which does not kill me... would probably kill you.
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2006/11/06, 05:34 PM
I really hate all this sensitivity crap. If you watch "Pumping Iron", there are little guys training next to the competitive body builders (like the white guy with the afro doing bicep curls watching Lou Ferrigno work out). We need gyms like they used to be: rusted iron weights, broken mirrors on the walls, and the right to grunt like a frickin' animal if we want to!
Mutt, open your gym soon.....:dumbbell:
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--JBennett
"I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!"
"Pain is only weakness leaving the body."
"Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
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2006/11/06, 05:47 PM
oh and the smell....you can't forget the smell....
I think the lunk head alarms are ridiculous...but mutt when you open your gym...please invest in a good ventilation system...and some oust:)
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2006/11/06, 05:59 PM
I don't find grunting intimidating...rather, I find it amusing. Every time I hear a guy grunt and/or drop his weights four feet from the floor, I shake my head a laugh. And no, I don't think there should be a rule. The lunk alarm thing sounds like a joke, like something from "Candid Camera."
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2006/11/07, 01:30 PM
no offense to the ladies on this sight....cause none of you all are "normal" ladies...if this gym was owned by a man....this wouldn't be a issue.
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Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack!
People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
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2006/11/07, 01:38 PM
well manager not owner*
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Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack!
People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
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2006/11/08, 03:24 PM
Well, if it was owned by a manly man. There might be some metros out there who think its a good idea. I think it's silly.
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2006/11/08, 03:26 PM
The reason is that in this country it has become a crime to offend someone. Do you need to be screaming each rep? No but if you are push or lifting some serious weight there is a bit of that going on. I would be outside picketing it if it happened to me.
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/11/08, 03:38 PM
I've found myself making grunts and these terrible faces I used to make fun of my husband for doing...as the weights get heavier...but I gotta say...going to a military gym...theres these big huge marines in there...not making alot of noise...but as soon as some half naked chick walks in...they start making all kinds of noise to get her attention...you don't even have to look up to know some broad with a face full of makeup and freshly done hair has just walked into the weights side of the gym to ab machine for all of ....one rep!!!!!
yeah...so those guys...they can shutup!!!!!!
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2006/11/08, 04:00 PM
Sure, KC, trying to impress chicks with grunts looks rediculous. But a legitimate grunt due to lifting heavy weight is something we all do from time to time. Pretty soon they'll ban making those 'terrible' faces when training because it scares people. Then they'll ban iron weights because they make too much noise. When will it stop....
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--JBennett
"I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!"
"Pain is only weakness leaving the body."
"Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
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2006/11/08, 04:04 PM
JB Our YMCA took all the old Iron weights and replaced them with rubber covered ones that suck.
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/11/08, 04:13 PM
I try really hard not to make faces. Shrugs make my face do this funny curl and I struggle not to let it happen. Yes, vanity thy name is Kathy. And I tend to be the silent type...even during natural childbirth. I laughed when I heard other women in labor yelling out in pain. I couldn't relate. I would have to dig deep to find a grunt. I do gasp sometimes.
Our gym has only rubber covered weights. Why do they suck? If the weight is true what difference does it make? 100 lbs. is 100 lbs., right? My bf has iron weights at home--why are they better?
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2006/11/08, 04:13 PM
So, are all the wts pink now Mutt:)
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2006/11/08, 04:15 PM
no...I know JB...I know people grunt....but the screamers are dorks...but hell...if you wanna scream...be my guest...I just turn up my headphones...I just think they look like fools...I even grunt...with my little 8 lb side laterals.
I belonged to a foo-foo gym about 10 years ago...there were no rules like this at the time...since then it has always been a military provided gym...no lunk head alarms there either.
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2006/11/08, 04:19 PM
And yes gentlemen...kathy brings up a good point...what difference DOES it make wther they are padded or full metal????
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2006/11/08, 04:20 PM
I guess farting is out of the question.
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Sometimes life is like herding cats.
Charlie
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2006/11/08, 04:21 PM
oh charlie...you absolutely crack me up!!!!!!!!:laugh:
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2006/11/08, 04:52 PM
Well, yes Charlie, if they come out like foghorns, but I think silent leaks are perfectly acceptable.
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2006/11/08, 04:56 PM
or(I saw this suggested in a commercial)you put a dryer sheet in your pants..so when you let out the gas...it's like potpourri....now who could get upset with you relesing a nice fresh scent...
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2006/11/08, 05:21 PM
The Fart Filter for only $19.95. Go from farts to fluff in a matter of seconds. Instead of smelling like a septic tank, smell like a load of freshly washed and dried clothes. just call now:big_smile:
that would make you look at your clean clothes completely differently
As for the pads on the weights, Mutt is upset because some of the colors do not match his thing and tights
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2006/11/08, 05:28 PM
his THING.....eeeewwwww
oh ....we're gonna be SO busted when rev8ball figures out we trashed his thread...it was Charlie....thats our story...kay
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2006/11/08, 05:37 PM
(getting on my soapbox again)
What's the deal with chalk? Most commercial gyms won't allow it. Why? When is a gym going to be sensitive to the needs of the intense hardcore lifters?
:angry:
(stepping back off soapbox - temporarily)
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--JBennett
"I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!"
"Pain is only weakness leaving the body."
"Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
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2006/11/08, 05:40 PM
whew...no...thats good JB...lets take this back to a good place before rev catches us...
so YEAH...what about the f'n chalk already...I mean C'MON people!!!!!!!
oh...and again...why is it important to have UNPADDED weights???
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2006/11/08, 06:10 PM
Hmmm...dryer sheets. Although I'll have to be careful later when I get undressed in the locker room.
KC, I don't think anyone has come up with a good reason for why padded weights suck.
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2006/11/08, 06:14 PM
no kathy...they seem to be ignoring the question...
that would have to mean there is no answer.
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2006/11/08, 07:02 PM
They suck because they do not fit on each bar the saem way, you can not fit 12 rubber covered 45 lb plates on each side, they do not make a nice clank and clink sound when you dead lift, and I can not use them to stand on for shrugs. ALso it looks better to lift a beat up MEATAL Plate than a sissy rubber thing.
As for matching my "thing" I could go long and hard with that but I will leave it alone.
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/11/08, 07:21 PM
GRUNT, GRUNT, GRUNT!
Does grunting the number of the reps as you lift count? My training partner used to tease me about that...
I must say I do get dirty looks from the pretty girls who never sweat and only do cardio and abs when I am all red and ugly and grunting. Oh well, they have different goals, like socializing and looking pretty.....
The rubber coated plate-style dumbbells are so wide, they can be awkward for some movements, I prefer the hexes. But I do like the handles on the new weight plates - i have a lot less elbow and wrist issues now.
Oh, and chalk is messy and not pretty:)
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You only ever grow as a human being if youre outside your comfort zone.
- Percy Cerutti
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2006/11/08, 07:49 PM
Okay, not being able to fit 12 45 lb plates on each side is a legitimate drawback. That's for all you guys who are lifting 1100+ lbs. I would never have thought of that since I doubt I'll ever need more than one 45 plate on each side. Don't get the need to stand on the weights to do shrugs or why you wouldn't be able to, but I guess that's my lack of weight room experience.
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2006/11/08, 08:22 PM
I'm gonna have to second that Kathy...I think we were thinking more along the lines of dumbells...I didn't even consider the plates...didn't know they covered those...
oh...and mutt.....THAT was funny....
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2006/11/09, 09:20 AM
Sorry ya'll but "thing" in my prev comment was a mistake. started to type something else, stopped, then did not remove all of the thought. Sorry. Did not mean mutts "thing" just tights
my face is actually red.
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2006/11/09, 09:28 AM
Yeah right redneck. I need the plates to stand on, the backs were flat and smooth with no holes, because when you shrug over 585 the bar bends and hits the rack so the plates gave me just enough to get that extra ROM.
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/11/09, 09:36 AM
oh.....I'm sorry tiger...I didn't mean to embarrass you...I assumed you were talking about mutts tutu he always talks about...and I decided to bring it to another lavel...my bad...sorry...
and mutt...what the heck are you TALKING about????You're post is not following a very good conversation thread...you're coming from left feild...you may be in need of a nap...or those meds are making you loopy!!!!!:big_smile:
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2006/11/09, 09:41 AM
What do you mean KC?
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/11/09, 12:11 PM
I see, mutt. Wow...I never would have thought of the bard bending. But plates with no holes? How do you get them on the bar?
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2006/11/09, 12:12 PM
Sorry the old plates did nto have the "handles" built in them
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/11/09, 01:50 PM
Oh, gotcha. I appreciate the handles when I have to remove 8 or 10 45lb plates, which the guys in the gym routinely leave on the leg press. But I think the main reason for the rubber is to protect the gym floor from damage when the weights are dropped, so you can't really blame them for that.
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2006/11/09, 01:52 PM
Bah Humbug! LOL
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/11/09, 01:57 PM
um...thats for disliking christmas darlin'....I was talking to my husband about this last night...he said he was taught to drop the weight...to not attempt to get it down..if he was going to fail...drop the weight to avoid injury...that the floors are padded for that reason...so now I'm really confused...he said the gyms with the lunk head alarms must be yuppy gyms.
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2006/11/12, 01:16 AM
You can find the video version here...
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_305235233.html
Can't believe some of the crap I hear. There are always proposals at the gym I work out at about banning chalk, changing the music, etc. Fortunately I have a say in these matters and can usually sway the favor, but I really have to feel for people like this that aren't so lucky.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/11/12, 07:29 AM
I work out at a YMCA. I use chalk for shrugs and deadlifts. Well I had been using it for a few months when an employee came up and told me I had to clean the bar and weights off. Seems one of the "older" folks complained of the dirty bar and weights. MY response was that I doubt this person even used the stuff I got chalk on, BUT that I would be glad to wipe them down. It is easy to overlook that othes do not share my view and philosophy of training.
I also got a kick over the request from a woman that they move the womens locker room. THe Y had just got finished remodeling all the locker areas and the womens (completely remade) was at the far back. Well this woman felt it was too far to walk! LOL Oh well that is wht makes the Y so much fun!
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When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the little space which I fill and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant and which know me not, I am frightened and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, why now rather than then. Who has put me here? By whose order and direction have this place and time been allotted to me? The eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me.
Blaise Pascal
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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