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2008/02/05, 01:30 PM
Ok, so my torn meniscus is on the way to a happy recovery, I can feel a huge difference since treating it well and following Dr. orders. But, NOW I have hurt my back!!! I don't know how I did it. I did Water aerobics last night followed by weights and can't think of a single thing that would have hurt me, but obviously I did something wrong somewhere! It's not a sore muscle, it's like shooting burning pains down the top of my legs and my lower back is in horrible pain which leads me to believe that I've pinched a nerve or something. Last night before bed I decided to do some Yoga thinking that maybe I just needed to stretch it out good which was probably stupid because I woke up in even more pain. I really don't want to go to the Dr. again, he's going to think I'm a hypochondriac. But seriously, what the heck is wrong with me? It's like I've never exercised before and I'm an accident waiting to happen!!! I keep taking one step forward, 2 back. GRRRR!!!
When I was really fat I had a bulging disk and was put on a regimine of anti-inflams, ice, heat and rest. That is exactly what this feels like again. I guess I'll just follow that regimine again. But COME ON! I'm getting really sick of this! If it's not my knee it's my back, or it's mono or some other crap. Any suggestions? Besides covering myself in Nerf!? For god's sake already.
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2008/02/05, 01:47 PM
LOL sorry but that last bit was funny. Sounds like a pinched nerve, rest it and stretch it out best you can....maybe take a trip to a chirpracter (spelling I know only Bigandrew is worse) to get an adjustment
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2008/02/05, 02:22 PM
You should try to be more specific with your injury descriptions. Mutt, if I make a "guide to asking about an injury" thread could you make it a sticky?
The unfortunate reality is that once a disk has bulged or completely herniated, it is more likely to reoccur. The anatomy of your disks is such that once it is stretched, it is that way for life.
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2008/02/05, 02:23 PM
Yes steve
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2008/02/05, 02:36 PM
Thanks Steve. I'll post my answers to your questionnaire. And laugh it up Mutt, I laugh at myself every day. Yesterday I was coming down the hall at work and saw someone in the office, went to wave at her and walked right into the glass door. It's my life. ha ha.
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2008/02/05, 02:42 PM
LOL that almost beats KC looking at her ass while on the treadmill and falling off!
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2008/02/05, 02:45 PM
Here you go Steve. I'll try to be more specific. With the frequency of my injuries, that could be a full time job! ha ha.
1. Where does it hurt? Lower back about 6 inches above tail bone, more on the left side than the right
2. How does it hurt? What kind of pain is it? Dull, throbbing, stinging, sharp, stabbing, acheing, etc? Throbbing, but a slow throb like image using a dimmer switch on a light taking it up and down slowly. When it is at the height of the throb it sends burning sensations down my left leg
3. When did it start hurting? What were you doing at the time? Last night, can't be sure but I THINK it may have been while doing twist crunches
4. When does it hurt? While lifting, standing, sitting, stretching, etc. While standing, or laying down, sitting if I have good posture. Basically any time that the back is straight.
5. Constant, intermittent, when doing certain movements? Pretty constant unless I'm sitting down with my elbows resting on my knees bent over.
6. Does the pain radiate to other parts of your body? Left leg all the way down to my foot
7. Range of motion? What movements can or can't you do? Can't bend backwards to stretch out
8. What makes it worse, better? Bending over touching my toes or leaning on a desk or something
9. What is your main concern regarding the pain and its consequences? How long it will take to heal and how long I will have to be without exercise
10. Any prior injuries? Yes, bulging disk in 2000 in the same spot as the pain now.
Put your toes on a 2 inch block with your heel on the ground... stretch forward keeping the knee straight but unlocked. results?
Um, huh? I think I must have copied this from another post by mistake. But just in case, I'll answer it anyway. Yes, it stretched my hamstrings and calves nicely, but did nothing for my back. lol
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2008/02/05, 02:56 PM
Sorry about your injruy..you will recover and get back up and go on. It's all good.
As far as the questionnaire sticky and getting so technical, pretty soon we're going to have to be signing waivers to get your advice Steve......:surprised:
That's all I have to say about that. LOL!
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2008/02/05, 03:16 PM
I feel your pain Amy! Last month I was babysitting for my neighbor, and I was playing with the 18 month old by tossing him up and then catching him. I must have caught him wrong once though, and my back went completely out. I had to take a full week off of exercising and just stay at home doing nothing.. it drove me nuts! Hopefully it's nothing serious and you'll be able to recover quickly and get back into things though!
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2008/02/05, 04:18 PM
Thanks everybody! I feel like one of those little old ladies in the restaurant talking about their broken hips and corns. ha ha.
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2008/02/05, 07:56 PM
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Quoting from ravenbeauty:
As far as the questionnaire sticky and getting so technical, pretty soon we're going to have to be signing waivers to get your advice Steve......:surprised:
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First off, it's tough enough trying to figure out aches and pains without even seeing a person, let alone with your smart mouth... :-P
Besides, this is only a small part of what I am studying, so I am a far cry from a specialist, and a far cry from experianced.
Waivers might be nice though...
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2008/02/05, 08:00 PM
Any idea if you have spinal stenosis? Your doctor may have mentioned it when you herniated your disk the first time.
Sounds like a pinched nerve. However, the issue is that pinched nerves are often caused by a herniated or bulging (near herniated) disk. What you are experiencing when pain shoots down the leg may be "electric shock pain" (pressure on nerves causing abnormal sensations.
I would see a Dr., sooner rather than later.
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2008/02/05, 11:47 PM
I don't remember the Dr. mentioning spinal stenosis, but I would think I would have remembered it if he said it.
Thanks for the information. I'll go to the Dr. Again. Thanks again.
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2008/02/06, 10:26 AM
Steve....you get so worked up so fast....LOL
I love pushing your buttons!! :)-
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Life is all about timing... the unreachable becomes reachable, the unavailable become available, the unattainable... attainable. Have the patience, wait it out It is all about timing.
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2008/02/06, 11:49 AM
Not that this will help at all, but it is possible that your injured knee has changed you general body position while walking and put a bit of extra stress on your already weak lower back. I often find that once I have some primary injury that it trickle to all my other weak points as well. Do what you can to help your back, massage, therapy, whatever it takes. You'll get thru this eventually so just hang in there!
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2008/02/06, 01:03 PM
Yeah, I'll take credit for the last post that is wicked long.
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2008/02/06, 03:37 PM
As for pain showing up in other parts of the body, that is a critical part of any therapists job. One of the first things I do when someone says one of their hips is hurting them is look up to the opposite shoulder to make sure it isn't yet showing signs from changed posture.
The unfortunate reality is still that the most likely cause is a herniated disk. This seems much more acute (as far as CTD's and back injuries go) rather than something that would occur as a change of posture.
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2008/02/07, 02:38 AM
Muscle imbalances can really trigger a Bulging disc, I have one.
As a gift my mother gave it to me when I was an infant because I was crying and she couldn't stop me so she gave me a reason to cry (F'd Up Stupid B@%$#).
Believe it or not what really has helped me out the best is stretching, deadlifts, squats, ab work and obliques, Stair climbers and Stair masters.
A physical therapist at Kaiser didn't even do much for me and I do more then he said I could ever!
I'll never be the badass on squats nor dealifts but at this point I'm doing deads 4 sets 6 reps with 225 when just 2 years ago getting 90 pounds off the floor was a chore, well bending down to get it was then to try to get it up!
Anyway you are always going to have to be careful and keep your in your mind you have a life long injury that can at anytime come and show up!
Everything you described say irritated bulging disc all over it!
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2008/02/07, 10:35 AM
Thanks all. I talked to my Dr. last night, he agreed with everyone here. It would appear to him as though I was babying my right knee without realizing it, especially while exercising. In the process, I wasn't keeping proper form and caused muscle injury on the left side of my lower back. That inflamation and injury is putting pressure on the disc, causing pressure on the nerves. The good news is, that I've got some meds and am on another regimine of ice and heat. Pretty soon I'm going to have to just take a bath in ice since I'm pretty much covered head to toe in ice packs any more. ha ha. With proper rest and regimine, I should be back to normal in a week or two. So, I'm not exercising for now, just doing the water aerobics, but very very light and careful because it's therapeutic. I learned the hard way that when the Dr. says to rest your injury, you should probably listen or you will truly make yourself worse off in the end. Lesson learned, the hard way.
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2008/02/07, 09:30 PM
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Quoting from SFGiantsMVP:
Muscle imbalances can really trigger a Bulging disc, I have one.
As a gift my mother gave it to me when I was an infant because I was crying and she couldn't stop me so she gave me a reason to cry (F'd Up Stupid B@%$#).
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I'm not sure how these 2 are related. You mention that you would know that a bulging disc can be caused by muscular imbalances, and then give a story that makes me assume it was an acute condition.
A bulging disk is more often than not an acute condition. Either way, I don't think that stretching it would help, in fact it is the last thing I recommend when it comes to the lumbar spine.
Also, I don't think you need to let it limit you. Derek Poundstone suffered a fully herniated disk just a year ago, and last week beat Mariusz Pudzianowski in the Mohegan Sun Strongman competition, and is my favorite to win this years Worlds Strongest Man Competition. You'll just have to be way more careful than most people. I would know (bulging S1-L5)
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2008/02/07, 09:46 PM
Reread it!
I said it can trigger it not cause one.
I meant stretching out your legs, Ham, glutes, calves, quads, hips and etc.
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2008/02/07, 09:51 PM
THe way that I interpreted what SF was saying was that he found those exercises helpful when he wasn't having a flare up. I have found that since building up muscle in my back, especially my lower back, and doing regular yoga, the disc problem flares up less and less often.
However, when it does flare up (like now as I sit in bed propped up on a thousand pillows) I can't imagine doing any exercises. I can't wait to heal. It's been a rough evening and I just wish someone would knock me out and put me out of my misery. lol.
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2008/02/07, 09:54 PM
Use a heating pad!
I take flexrill a muscle relaxer from the doctor as yours for some!
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2008/02/07, 09:57 PM
I use ice and heat both are great ice is more for after a workout or 1st start of a flare up and heat is great for bed!
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2008/02/07, 10:21 PM
Truth.
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2008/02/07, 10:55 PM
Im currently on naprosyn for my knee, an anti-inf. Flexeril for my back, and ultram for pain. I'm pretty well covered meds wise. I just HATE taking artificial chemicals, I'm a freak like that, but you know, we gotta do what we gotta do. I'm alternating heat and ice, I sat with a heating pad all day at work. I better go to bed. Nite!
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