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2005/04/17, 04:26 PM
Despite being female I cannot yet understand our crazy obsession with dieting.
I was at a party yesterday with several girls aged 19-22 (I'm 24) and we were dicussing our least favorite body parts,etc. They all told me that I look good for having 2 kids (most of them had none) and indeed in that particular group I was not only the slimmest body had the least B/F%.
Well naturaly they asked about my secret to stay in shape so I told them about macro-nutrition breakdowns and weighttraining. They then proceeded to try to sell me on wieghtwatchers! They pulled out the lil booklets and were trying to show me how great it was with the point counting. Then half the group that was on the South Beach diet started making their case to me.....
I am nowhere near my goals mind you, I am a size 5 with 20%B/F and measure 34/27/31&1/2 (the half is a recent gain thanx to advice from philia, menace and BB1!)My goal is 15%B/F and to be 33/25/33- or roughly a size 3.
But in that group of 5 or 6 women I was the leanest! Why in the name of God would I switch to THEIR diets/health plans!? They all said the same thing to me, they don't want to work out becuz of time constraints or "getting bulky".
uggh!
Sorry to vent on you all, but this place is the only tru support I recieve for my newer lifestyle of lifting and following a macro mutrtion diet.
I wish all us women would drop the diet fads and take our butts to the gym! then maybe we could sit around and discuss our FAVORITE bodyparts more often!
Big ups to all you girls that have seen the light. We're realy not alone in our quest for health, tho it sure does feel like it sometimes!
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2005/04/17, 04:40 PM
I know exactly what your talking about!!!
Many of my friends would rather not eat then work out and count calories.
I have one freind whom is about a size 6 (but she's 5'11")and she swears by various diet pills. She will take two different kinds at a time and she switches them monthly.
It doesn't matter what I try to tell these ladies - they know more then me. That's fine - I just want to try to help them before its too late.
Congratulations to you and your lean body!! I have total faith that you'll reach that goal of a size 3 :love:
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2005/04/18, 03:18 PM
Thanx. I know I'll reach it, I'm just not sure in what time frame. Once I reach it tho, I'll be setting lifting goals for myself.:big_smile:
Diet pills are popular among my friends too. appearantly they can also be mixed with other types of pills for some crazy cocktails. personaly I think its a lil dangerous.
I just moved here in Nov. tho and it kills me that I can't find anyone with a similar interest in working out amoung the girls my age. Atleast my friends back home "toned".
The gym here is free to all the military wives and it's less than 15minutes from most housing so there really is no excuse for these ladies!
but no, they're all going to diet their way into bikinis for the summer. uggh!
Good luck to you too, and thanx for the support:love:
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2005/04/18, 04:55 PM
That free gym sound great!!
I won't go to the gym just because it costs sooo much.
I believe one month is $75 - where I live. :laugh:
I also have a problem trying to find 'work-out buddies'. Instead, all of my friends say, "you don't need to workout your skinny". They just don't understand that I don't want to be just 'skinny' - I want to lose the fat and be sculpted...I want that hard body that so few women have.
I can usually get them to walk with me, but only at slow paces...I guess I'm trying to slowly get some of them involved. Slowly but surely :)
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2005/04/18, 05:17 PM
that's sad...majority of people always try to take the easy way out (reason why they always cling to fad diets and crazy 'dietary' supplements)....
and then make up excuses for why they don't workout...
thing is with people is that they come to certain behaviors/conclusions for different reasons so that pure logical evidence won't convince them otherwise...just like with smoking...
people take up smoking...for different reasons for example...whether it's purely from behavioral, emotional, or rational(logical) aspect...so if someone thinks smoking is cool(emotional aspect)...no amount of evidence of cancer risks will get them to quit...same thing to people who do crazy things when it comes dieting or why they don't want to join a gym...or whatever else....to successfully 'convert' people you have to find out the root of the reasons for why they do something....and then work from there...
but ignorance is bliss...it's often best to just help yourself and if others are deluded into their own crazy beliefs then so be it....why waste time arguing with someone who has no clue and won't change no matter what you tell them...
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2005/04/19, 12:11 AM
You're right Menace, but alotta chicks like me desire companionship in all our endeavors. We hit the salon together, malls, workouts, everything is always a group effort. I'll spend forever working out alone if that's what it takes tho.
Shelby I feel you on the whole "skinny" thing. I was skinny b4 having kids as well but never happy with my body composition. I'm glad I left toning in the dust this year! You prolly know it, but if you're in college you should have access to the gym there, even if you just take one class.
The gyms on base are one of the few perks to military life so far for me, and I am VERY grateful to use it compliments of Uncle Sam.
BTW my lil sister is doing Pilate's (I read your profile=) and she says it realy works the abs well, besides being very relaxing. Shes been doing it for 2 years so I think she realy likes it. Have you found this to be the case? I've considered adding it to weight training and jogging, for relaxation benefits.
For real, if you ever find yourself in Oceanside, CA I'll do more than walk slow with you:dumbbell: :)
Good looking out
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2005/04/19, 01:18 AM
The only thing we can do is to try to teach people about our livestyles. They have to realize and experience the things themselves, we cannot change them.
All of us have done mistakes and all of us have learnt (and are still learning!).
Don't worry, you are not alone! :):love:
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www.nme-pro.com
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2005/04/19, 04:53 AM
I think that a lot of people ask advice without really being open to suggestions - I think there are only certain times in peoples' lives when they are really able to change.
I was lucky I found FT when I was recovering from an appendicectomy, and was very open to change - I finally managed to kick out the excessive cardio to detriment of lifting , and excessive calorie restriction that I was doing before.
I think you just need to gently nudge people who aren't ready to change, and really make the most of it when they are.
My ex kept saying "you don't need to go to the gym - you're not fat", not understanding that I would go to the gym even if it made no difference to my appearance at all.
Happy lifting girls (and Menace) :dumbbell:
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2005/04/19, 06:17 AM
Best advice is to lead by example...talking the talk is fine...but walking the walk is better...when your friends see you lift week after week and see your results...eventually they may decide that they too will give it a try....
if they ask you how you did it...why don't you invite them to train with you....by telling them you can't tell how to do it...you have to show them and they have to experience it....
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2005/04/19, 10:13 AM
I agree. Since I've been training I've had a lot of friends as me what diet I'm on. They are always shocked when I tell them I haven't really lost any weight, that it's just muscle from weight lifting. Some just don't believe I'm not dieting! Funny enough I'm actually eating way more than I used too. But, two of them have joined a gym and signed up with PT's! It's always great to see friend shifting to a healthy lifestyle!!
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2005/04/19, 01:55 PM
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Quoting from shelby2005:
I also have a problem trying to find 'work-out buddies'. Instead, all of my friends say, "you don't need to workout your skinny". They just don't understand that I don't want to be just 'skinny' - I want to lose the fat and be sculpted...I want that hard body that so few women have.
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There that is my problem - too bad none of you live around me. I would really love a workout buddy
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All people smile in the same language
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2005/04/19, 07:10 PM
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Quoting from randomgirl:
You prolly know it, but if you're in college you should have access to the gym there, even if you just take one class.
BTW my lil sister is doing Pilate's (I read your profile=) and she says it realy works the abs well, besides being very relaxing. Have you found this to be the case? I've considered adding it to weight training and jogging, for relaxation benefits.
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Well, finished with college..so no luck there.
I've been exercising at home to various tapes...the Pilates tape I have is anything BUT relaxing. Its a hard work out...my abs are definitely doing ALOT of work (but I love the way it feels)
I have taken a few Yoga classes - and I love that...very relaxing.
If I ever make it across the country, I may take you up on that workout offer
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2005/04/21, 11:36 AM
Well, I am ashamed to admit that I used to be one of those girls you are talking about. I just figured if I was skinny, why exercise and if I was overweight, then I needed to exercise. (I was so ignorant.) It took me a few years, and plenty of research to finally realize that healthy eating and exercise are important whether I'm thin or overweight.
I also wish I had a workout buddy.
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2005/04/21, 04:33 PM
Man, we're all so scattered.
Almost all of us are still looking for a workout buddy...:(
Menace that is a wicked smart idea! I never considered suckering a new friend into the gym. Sometimes guys have a different perspective on things and it helps, thanx.
Shelby I'm an east coast native myself (Florida), but this place is nice. You ever down by Sandiego or L.A.,stop my way. Yoga seems interesting but I cant find a local class after 6am, maybe I should just force a bend in my schedual and suck it up.
Flyonthewall chic that's so cool that you got your G/F's to go to gym!
Princess I hope you have found/do find a Lover that supports you. That's gotta suck. Maybe you will find a man with wisdom equal to your own.
Smurfetta I was a "toner" for the last 5 yrs. I took being skinny for granted too, untill I had kids. I'm great that girls like us eventualy find someone to show us the way.
I'm glad you guys are always supporting. Philia, Menace, Princess, EVERYONE - way too many to list on one post.
W/O it I would end up feeling like a lost soul in the world of :dumbbell:
I still think it would be much easier if I could just meet somebody that already works out, but whatever it takes!
Good looking out
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2005/04/21, 04:50 PM
anyone have an Instant messager that they leave on?? I usually have AOL on but I could keep yahoo or MSN on if someone wants to be an IM workout buddy
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Reddy
All people smile in the same language
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2005/04/21, 07:14 PM
It's not really tricking(white lie at worst ;) )...some things you can't know before doing them....also this is what they'll be doing anywayz if they make the commitment...so might as well give them the whole picture....
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2005/04/22, 12:20 PM
I think women have more pressure on them to look good. Men have a lot of pressure for other things but in our society and media right now women are brought up to think they need to look a certain way and maintain a certain weight. I's not only women the media has done this too either. Men are convinced aswell. I don't think theres much hope, especially here in the states, for that to change anytime soon for the majority of the population. I know as I learn more about health/fitness I am less affected. Now the anorexic look isn;t appealing. Being slender is, but now I seem to be more concerned with lean muscle tone that shapes the body the way you want it to look instead of being a bag of skin and bones. Once people are less concerned about weight and more concerned about health I think we might have a chance. :)
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