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2005/11/08, 05:46 PM
wow no1 posted here in 2 weeks....really shows the difference between how little known deadlifts are compared to bench press....bench press post would have been 200 replies deep by now...
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2005/11/08, 07:12 PM
yea iknow right?
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2005/11/08, 08:40 PM
i perfer deadlifts over any of my other lifts. i feel that there a great workout and produce very good results and also its satisfying pulling all that weight.
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2005/11/08, 10:00 PM
i am doin 265 for 2 sets of 3 right now. i will get my 1rm in like 2 weeks... hoping i can probably put up close to 300 due to supplemental lifts. oh... and that is on a fat bar and i weigh 178lbs
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2005/11/08, 11:46 PM
nice. when I was training for wrestling, ALL my deadlifts were double overhand fat bar off a platform. Excellent for posterior chain and grip strength. I miss my fat bar, I couldn't bring it with me...
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The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. ~~~Hunter S. Thompson
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/11/08, 11:47 PM
oh, and guys...thats WHY I started this thread... it was actually more popular than I expected it to be though.
next: how much do you overhead squat??? j/k
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The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. ~~~Hunter S. Thompson
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/11/09, 04:30 AM
lol wrestler........u got me...0
this should be a sticky :)
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2005/11/15, 01:49 AM
wow...very impressive...congrats
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2005/11/10, 04:49 PM
im using 1 over 1 under for my fat bar lifts... i think when i try for 1rm i might use reg olympic bar... might help me do a little more.. or do you think thats incorrect?
-nate
oh... and i think my overhead was like 130 or somethin if you really wanted to ask people
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2005/11/10, 06:23 PM
You'll defianetly do more. I only did thick bar deadlifting as a supplemental move though. Mostly for grip work, and so that I didn't put too much stress on my posterior chain.
Nate... You were overhead squatting 130? Thats impressive. I think I was doing 135 at the end of an 8 week cycle. Its amazing how fast that lift went up and how much it improved my core strength. I'm taking a while away from it, but plan on doing at least a 3 week cycle every now and then, but probably just as a supplemental move.
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The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. ~~~Hunter S. Thompson
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/11/10, 06:28 PM
wrestler how's the overhead squat on the shoulders? if my shoulders are less than great...should I attempt doing it?
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2005/11/11, 02:30 AM
I actually started doing it to build up shoulder stability. Trust me menace, I of all people have had more than my share of shoulder injuries. I feel my shoulders are much more stable and healthy since using them. Just start light, and I usually only worked up to a 5 or 3rm. I didn't have any problems doing them, and I have a lot of problems where shoulders are concerned.
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The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. ~~~Hunter S. Thompson
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/11/17, 10:01 AM
I hit 315x8 on the SLDL that was after 12 sets of goodmornings. I hope to hit 475 then 500 by JAN
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2005/11/17, 10:02 AM
That 475-500 is for reg DL
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2005/11/17, 07:29 PM
good goal mutt...best of luck with that....12 sets of goodmornings? jeez you must enjoy torturing yourself LOL
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2005/11/19, 06:36 PM
For those members that don't visit the powerlifting forum, I thought this was worth a repost:
DEADLIFTING
By Eric Dodd
My legs sprawled out from the bench where I sit
While I soak in my sweat and tongue out the grit
From my molars and savor each second of rest
Before I return for a personal best
I imagine each subsequent part of my set-up
Chalk my torn palms before stooping to get up
Trudge back toward the bar across the gym floor
A dejected ex-lover who's come back for more
I step to the weight as if starting a fight
My body resilient, my fists clenched tight
Lower myself in a humble bow
To a weight never moved-at least until now
I push back the caution and doubt that I've felt
Unleashing Hell as I fasten my belt
Seizing the bar with resolute hands
Eschewing stares from those who don't understand
Look up and tense through my heels to the ground
Pulling with madness, head up and butt down
The bar flexes upward then cracks off the floor
The weight lumbers, slumbers, encumbers me more
And as I strain through the physical strife
I loose sight of time and the bland chores of life
For this is my passion, though extreme in degree
And yes most wouldn't guess, as the bar clears my knees,
That I'm feeling such joy by God's own grace
Behind this beat-red frown on my face
And with every inch the bar crawls up my thighs
With every groan and pain-laden cry
With every moment the iron yields to me
Without a doubt, I am truly free
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Yes I realize my shins are bleeding. And its called a deadlift. Any other questions???
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/11/22, 05:20 PM
more beautiful evertime i read it... almost makes me want to cry............
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2005/11/22, 06:50 PM
:::sheds a tear:::
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2005/11/28, 07:49 PM
hits ya right here( hand over heart)...
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Friends don't let friends squat high...
People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
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2005/11/29, 10:56 AM
see guys, powerlifters do have a soft side...
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Yes I realize my shins are bleeding. And its called a deadlift. Any other questions???
If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
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2005/11/30, 10:38 PM
haha... so i got my max dl... pronatin grip with stance about shoulder maybe little more and hands just inside power rings. i hit 295x1 and then tried 315 but couldnt do it (i tried 3times which was probably dumb) and then tried 305 and 300 but to no avail.. i think if i had gone up to just 300 after 295 i would have been fine. thats a PR for me... no 400 or anythin... but whatever
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2005/12/09, 01:34 PM
I Pulled 475 last night!
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2005/12/09, 03:14 PM
just to warn you but when you get to 500...you might try and go out and try to lift the back of a car off the ground......LOL....didn't quite work for me...but hey ....you might do it!
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2005/12/09, 03:45 PM
I can almost get my wifes Geo Metro off the ground
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2005/12/09, 03:46 PM
And remember my DL are belt only, with chalk done conventional style.
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2005/12/09, 06:03 PM
Does the belt help? I have never used it so I don't know whether its helpful....I might need to try using chalk...it might help my grip a bit...
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2005/12/11, 10:44 PM
It helps to remind me to keep the arch and at that weight I really do not want to take a chance. I use it only for DL over 425 and Sq over 405.
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2005/12/13, 12:34 AM
It also helps to teach one how to properly use the abdominals in the squat. That is how sheiko used to train, and westside stole this and popularized it.
Menace, you don't use chalk??? After all that grip work, chalk would have been a good way to help very quickly.
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Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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Quoting from 7707mutt:
The squat cage is holy ground.
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2005/12/13, 09:04 PM
Damn menace nice arms I wish I had sh^t like dat
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2005/12/21, 10:47 PM
I'm finally back to FULL leg training. god i missed squatting and deadlifting...
Hit 225 today for 3 triples with the thick bar, double overhand, pulling from a 3 inch deficit. Barely noticed the defecit, but the weight was damn hard to lock out without it slipping from my hands. Next time I'll switch to an alternating grip, and work up to a max. My goal for when I return to school is 365 on a regular bar.
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Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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The squat cage is holy ground.
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2006/01/21, 11:36 AM
The deadlift in the deadlift for reps for the strongman competition is going to be 345lbs. With straps. So we'll see what I can do in another 10 weeks.
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Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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The squat cage is holy ground.
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2006/02/12, 05:34 AM
705 at 248 lbs...thats with a suit.(Inzer)
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2006/02/20, 12:00 AM
one of my friends who is 17 can deadlift an incredible 750 pounds. im just guessing here, but im guessing that you guys are crapping your pants rite about now.
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The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender!
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2006/03/09, 10:03 PM
I hit 395 at push/pull competiion i weighed in 158 that morning, I hit 405 later that week as personal best.
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2006/03/10, 07:31 AM
good job BV
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2006/03/11, 12:06 AM
Just found out the DL for reps in the strongman competition will be a 400lb axel. We'll see how I far, but I promise I will lock that thing out at least once. Bodyweight is moving up, I'm hovering under 155 now.
good to hear brownvanilla.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/04/14, 12:30 PM
Pulled 405 at the competition. No belt. This was a huge PR, at 155lbs bodyweight. Probably had more in me, but it was a 405lb dl for reps. I stopped after hitting my first rep, because that alone put me ahead of half the pool.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/05/09, 07:49 AM
My plan right now is to take the next 2-3 weeks off of singles for deadlifts. I am working on speed and I will do triples maybe. Then by June 1st or so hit the heavy numbers I want to pull 500 in June.
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/05/09, 04:51 PM
i hit 355 for 3 on sumo the other day. yay for me! tried 405 today to see if i was in superhero mode.. but i failed. failed on 375 too... which should be right around 1rm. must be the fact that my hip has been killing me for at least a week straight.
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2006/05/09, 06:50 PM
Wouldnt jump like that ...good way to injure yourself...
Once I heal from my hip injury....I'll try to slowly creep to 700.....my grip is improving as well...I should be now able to hold on to around 600...
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2006/05/10, 11:26 AM
well it was basically me doin one of those heavy holds... you know... to tense up your body... like when you hold the +100% weight over you for bench, cept i did at bottom portion of deadlift, to help with explosion. but my hip was hurting before and after so i wasnt very sucessful. haha- so maybe you are right, which would completely waste my arguement..
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2006/05/12, 06:41 AM
Be careful....sometimes I/others mention things of the top of our heads without thinking whether you can apply it to yourself...some of the things we mention are fairly advanced so u need to have good judgement when to apply them....
I would actually drop the weight considerably and do the deadlifts off a box...stand on maybe 4-6" box and lift the bar off the floor...trust me that will strengthen the bottom portion of the lift...
intensity is good...but attempting weight you KNOW is more than ur max is just foolish....a great way to injure yourself...going balls to the wall and being bone headed are 2 very different things....i have done both...so I know LOL...
If u are going to use supramaximal weight...make sure u can handle it...and above all make sure your SAFETY is not compromised....so have a spotter ...doing negatives is another way you can really strengthen yourself quickly...
lowering the weight slowly off a box(while standing on a box) to the floor....which pretty much u should be inside a cage....u can start with 95-100% sets of 1...and increase the intensity to 101+%....
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2006/05/15, 12:43 AM
i completely get you cept for one thing- how are you saying use supramaximal weight and make sure you can handle it? that doesnt really make sense. if i am doin a hold on bench with supra weight, it is only at the extended portion or with a negative to get a feel for the weight.
i really do like your box idea, but im tryin to blow up my sumodl... how would i have a high box and have legs so far apart? or shoudl i just turn back to conventional for that?
and to defend myself so as to not look like a dumba$$, i hit my 355x3 with ease, should have gone for 5 but wanted to save some energy for other lifts. i probably could have gotten close to at least 6 or 7 which would put my max right around 400, so this shouldnt have been an issue. the only problem was a hip injury that i thought had subsided.
i cant really comprehend the spotter on deadlifts too... i mean... if im goin to ditch the weight.. the last thing i want is someone tryin to make me hold on it or get in the way of it fallin. i believe it is easier to not have.
thanks for your concern and please do critique my above comments cuz im just tryin to make sense of things.
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2006/05/15, 12:45 AM
uh... in regards to the first part, i meant, i will have 100%+ and thats not really able to be properly "handled" its more like slowing it down.
and i will definetly put the box into practice this week seeing as tho the bottom of the lift is my worst point.
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2006/05/17, 12:04 AM
To use a supramaximal technique for dl, I might recommend doing rack lockouts with 100%+.
Although, considering I can pull what I can lockout, this doesn't necessarily apply to me, but you can take from it what you will. You said you have difficulty pulling from the floor, so this may be a good idea that is applicable to you.
I would NOT recommend a supramaximal isometric in the hole. Bad idea IMO.
I also would not recommend negatives for a deadlift. I may have to call you out on this menace. While I am all for it for certain lifts, this is not something I would be willing to risk my stock in.
As for pulling from a deficit to strengthen your pull from the ground, excellent advice. Simple, yet effective.
I almost always used to pull from a deficit (to make up for the fact that I was using a thick bar), and I can get above my max off the ground.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/05/19, 05:23 PM
Well I done 375 in highschool with my weight being 115... I'm 150 not...I'm sure i'm in the upper 300's...
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2006/06/20, 12:18 AM
Not sure of max, not enough weight available (yet) in my home. 1 set of 8 at 255lbs and 2 sets of 8 with 300lbs. at BW of 210lbs.
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2006/06/22, 06:28 PM
655 with chalk, 700 with straps @220
perhaps negatives on deadlifts is not the best of ideas....but I still wouldnt rule it out completely...I may give it a try sometime...
I can lift more at the bottom and at the top of a deadlift ...I get stuck right at the middle.....I am sure I can do a good 5% or more in bottom or top position than I can for a complete rep...
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2006/07/19, 02:26 PM
only 250 at 150lbs
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2006/07/20, 03:31 PM
Well the deadlift is my favourite exercise. And i agree its a proper indication of strength. I use to use straps, but i learnt that if i wanted to increase my strength i'd have to strenghten my forearms. So i binned the straps and chalked up instead!
I'm 180lb and can lift 400lb (182.5kg) for 4 reps in good form. I think thats quite impressive, but when it comes to benching, i'm lucky to push past 210lb. And my shoulders are not the best.... ha ha. Can't have everything your own way right?!
Kev
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Quoting from wrestler125:
Ok, just so everyone knows, I don't usually support those "how much can you lift" threads. However, 95% of those threads are geared to the bench press. Well, the bench press is the weakest of the big three, and it is far overrated as a method of determining overall strength. So, I propose a better measure of manhood. The deadlift. The deadlift is a complete total body movement, working from your forearms and hands, up to your trapezius, and back down to your toe flexors. It is one of the most technically difficult exercises, and proper form is a must. So, just out of curiousity as to the responses I will get:
How much can you deadlift???
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How much do you deadlift?
